On a similar note (from a Rookie Coach), if the robot fails at a mission and there is time (and material) remaining, can they make another attempt at the mission without a penalty? 

Specific scenario: Robot fails M07 - Fountain (leaving a Big Water somewhere out in the Field, but robot comes completely back into Base). There are two Big Waters remaining in Base. Can a relaunch (or two) of M07 be attempted without penalty?

R14 and R15 aren't clear (to me) on the above. Would GP2 ("If a detail isn’t mentioned, then it doesn’t matter") apply in the above?

Many thanks,
Sid Hatcher
co-coach Tsunami Saints (#31607)

On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 11:40 PM, VA-DC Referee Advisor <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
The rule that allows your team to load stuff and arrange things on the Robot in Base is R13--Launching

A proper Launch (or re-Launch) goes like this:
• READY SITUATION
o Your Robot and everything in Base it’s about to move or use is arranged by hand as you like, all fitting “COMPLETELY IN BASE” ...

As always, don't forget that R11 gives specific limits on what you may do with Mission Models.
There is an exception to R11 in the Missions--in Base, you are allowed to attach the Optional Loop to either of the blue New Pipes, if that makes things easier for your team.

Steve Scherr
Virginia-DC FLL Referee Advisor

On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 4:30 PM, Vincent Shier <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
The kids can load the big water(s) that start in base (or were brought back to base) on the robot/attachment while still in base prior robot launch.

Best regards, 

Vince Shier
co-coach iBOT Brainiacs 

On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 4:12 PM, Adriana Green <greena1@charlottesvilleschools.org> wrote:
Are the robots allowed to hold a big water while starting in base, or does it need to be able to lift the big water into its attachment?

On Sun, Oct 22, 2017 at 9:23 PM, Fly Minds <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Hello

Please assist with confirming whether or not the items listed below are the correct items the team may start with in base

Tripod, slingshot (with 1 clean and one dirty rain inside), 3 big waters, water well, 2 blue pipes and one gray loop.

thank you! 

Bright Minds
Team#25137

thank you!!

Yasmeen Neal
Director
Fly Minds Youth Development Club

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Adriana Green
5th Grade Teacher
Walker Upper Elementary School
434-245-2412

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