Mostly correct--your team cannot bring a Mission Model (or other scoring item) to Base by rescuing the robot. If your team Interrupts the Robot -- and -- the Robot is Transporting the Broken Pipe (D10) -- and -- at the moment that the Robot is Interrupted by the team, the Broken Pipe is not completely in Base --then-- the Referee takes the Broken Pipe out of play and it is not available to score for M01.(R14) • TRANSPORTED THING o Completely in Base --> Keep it o NOT completely in Base --> Give it to the Ref Steve Scherr Virginia-DC Referee Advisor On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 4:23 PM, Dinesh Bhat <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > I believe that in the above case, you will not be awarded points for > bringing a model back to base. For e.g. your robot hooks up the broken pipe > but cannot get back to base. > Is my understanding correct? > > -Dinesh > On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 4:02 PM VA-DC Referee Advisor <[log in to unmask]> > wrote: > >> Todd has a good comment. If your team prepares the referee to know if >> there is something in particular to look for, or some action that they want >> him or her to take, then they have a better chance of success. >> >> Just as your team wants to engineer your robot to reduce variability, >> your team can also "engineer" the referee to reduce variability :-) [at >> least, that's what I call it!] >> >> >> R14 (plus Update 1) is the rule on Interrupting the robot. Remember >> that the robot may continue doing things after it is brought back to Base, >> but it needs to meet all the conditions for a Launch (R13) in order to keep >> on going. >> >> Steve Scherr >> Virginia-DC FLL Referee Advisor >> >> On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 3:05 PM, Todd J Lennox <[log in to unmask]> >> wrote: >> >>> Matthew is right on with his responses. Want to discuss though item #2 >>> as I have seen some issues with this one in the past. The referee will pick >>> up the robot if asked. They will though often not grab it immediately in >>> order to ensure that is the team wants. They are NOT responsible for >>> anything that happens between the time you ask and they actually pick up >>> the robot. If a scoring criteria indicates it is to be scored based on what >>> appears at end of match the referee can’t give you credit for a condition >>> your robot changed as result of the referee not reacting to your request >>> before the robot changed the condition. >>> >>> If you have a strategy or you know your robot tends to go haywire and >>> therefore expect to ask the referee to pick the robot I recommend you have >>> your technicians let the referee know before the match begins. Have them be >>> specific about where the robot will be when you are likely to want to pick >>> it up. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Oct 26, 2017, at 1:35 PM, Matthew Denyszyn < >>> [log in to unmask]> wrote: >>> >>> 1. There is no penalty if the robot is not in base at the end of the >>> match >>> 2. If the robot is stranded the members can grab it and bring it back to >>> base. If the can not reach the robot they can ask the referee for help. >>> 3. In Case 2. it would be a touch penalty (-5 points) >>> >>> V/R >>> Matthew Denyszyn >>> FLL Coach >>> FLL Referee >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 1:24 PM, Cedric D'Costa < >>> [log in to unmask]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Referees, Coaches, >>>> >>>> >>>> Please reply to the 3 questions below. Apologies in advance if I missed >>>> this in the documentation. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 1. Is there a penalty if the robot does not reach base at the end >>>> of the 2.5 minutes? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 2. If the robot gets stranded, can a team member bring the >>>> robot back to base and >>>> >>>> continue it's run or does the team member need to request the >>>> referee to do it? >>>> >>>> >>>> 3. What is the penalty in each of these cases, if any. >>>> >>>> >>>> Thank you, >>>> Cedric D'Costa >>>> >>>> Coach: FLL team, Fantastic-5 >>>> >>> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE or CHANGE your settings, please visit https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-l.html and select "Join or leave the list". -- VADCFLL administrative announcements are sent via VADCFLL-ANNOUNCEMENTS-L. Visit https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-ANNOUNCEMENTS-l.html to subscribe.