For Pat's example, his picture shows 2 adjacent stacks (tan and red) each 8 Levels high in the red circle, with a Mission 13 Upgrade on top of both stacks. The Upgrade does not force the stacks to combine into a single stack. It would have to be a Building Unit in order for that to happen. Mission 12 scores like this: 10 points for the red Level 1 unit Completely in the Red Circle and Flat Down on the Mat 80 points for the combined heights of 16 from the red stack and the tan stack (each 8 high) The interesting thing is Mission 13 and the Upgrade. The Upgrade is Supported by the pair of stacks. The special definition of Supported in Rule 34 says that 100% of its weight is held up and kept from falling. Mission 13 requires that the Upgrade is "Supported by a Stack" which is at least partly in a circle. Both the tan stack and the red stack are Completely In the red circle, so that's okay. I would typically read the scoring criteria as saying that "a Stack" means a single Stack holding up the entire weight of the Upgrade. If I could determine that the Red stack was not bearing any of the weight, or if the team members could present a case that raised enough doubt in my mind about the meaning of the Mission criteria, then I would count the Upgrade (10 points). Otherwise, I probably would not count the Upgrade. Different referees could see this differently. In any case, the upgrade can only be counted once, since it cannot have 100% of its weight Supported by two separate Stacks. Steve Scherr Virginia-DC FLL Referee Advisor On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 11:08 AM McFadden, Pat <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > We have been asking questions about that challenge also... > > Attached are my communications (with pictures). > > Regards, > Pat McFadden > > -----Original Message----- > From: First Lego League in Virginia and DC <[log in to unmask]> > On Behalf Of Patrick N > Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2019 10:48 AM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: [VADCFLL-L] Question on Mission 12 Design & build > > Hello, our team members have different interpretations for the scoring > with respect to the Figure 3, Mission 12 Design and build, Game guide. > > Color match = red > Red stack = 2 levels > Other stack = 4 levels > 40 points shown > > For the other stack scoring, some feel that it should be 7 levels ( 3 > white, 1 blue and 3 tan), whereas some feel that it should be 4 since the > blue is shared across the white & tan stacks, which makes the stacks "not > independent". I agree with the later interpretation, but wanted to be > sure. Any clarifications would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks, > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE or CHANGE your settings, please visit https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-l.html and select "Join or leave the list". -- VADCFLL administrative announcements are sent via VADCFLL-ANNOUNCEMENTS-L. Visit https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-ANNOUNCEMENTS-l.html to subscribe.