And as pointed out in several earlier emails, it could be part of a team’s strategy to save time by intentionally interrupting the robot outside of home, perhaps to perform an additional mission that is worth more than the loss of a token... Ben Clark Panda Cubs On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 10:54 AM Heather L. Meek <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > If you string several missions together in your code, of course they can > complete them. Kids are just supposed to avoid touching the robot until it > has returned home to begin their next set of code. > > Heather Meek > Instructional Technology Coach > Ellis Elementary School > ------------------------------ > *From:* First Lego League in Virginia and DC <[log in to unmask]> > on behalf of Kaitlin W. Chidester <[log in to unmask]> > *Sent:* Thursday, November 7, 2019 10:31 AM > *To:* [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> > *Subject:* Re: [VADCFLL-L] Robot returning to Home/Launch Area > > So to be clear we have them complete one mission from launch, return to > home then they can pick it up, put it back in launch and then run another > mission? Is that right? Can they not complete two missions while out on > the field after leaving launch? For example they can't do M06 and M08 then > return home? > > ------------------------------ > *From:* First Lego League in Virginia and DC <[log in to unmask]> > on behalf of aprille.j.ericsson <[log in to unmask]> > *Sent:* Thursday, November 7, 2019 10:17 AM > *To:* [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> > *Subject:* Re: [VADCFLL-L] Robot returning to Home/Launch Area > > I agree with Heather's and others comments. I am at a loss for the > reasoning behind the changes. There will be many teams that will not be > aware of the difference between home and launch. > > I find it disheartening that we will penalize teams if they bring the > robot back to it original launch location. This would be typical to > Industry. I note FLL has already made it a smaller base. So it is already > more challenging. > > How do we provide feedback to FLL? > > Best regards > Dr. Aprille Ericsson > > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Heather Ramsey <[log in to unmask]> > Date: 11/7/19 9:32 AM (GMT-05:00) > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [VADCFLL-L] Robot returning to Home/Launch Area > > I’m sorry but this is ridiculous! Now they lose points for touching the > robot in the launch area. This elementary school not Microsoft programming > professionals! > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Nov 7, 2019, at 09:05, Wardensky, Shellye <[log in to unmask]> > wrote: > > Thanks for the info. J > > > > *From:* Anne Moore [mailto:[log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>] > *Sent:* Thursday, November 7, 2019 9:01 AM > *To:* Wardensky, Shellye <[log in to unmask]> > *Cc:* [log in to unmask] > *Subject:* Re: [VADCFLL-L] Robot returning to Home/Launch Area > > > > *Use Caution* > > This message originated outside of York County School Division. > Use caution when opening attachments, clicking links or responding to > requests for information. > > Home is the area that is not covered by the mat. The launch is the > gridded section of the mat - you cannot have any part of the robot or > attachments over the black line (at least that is our interpretation) when > launching. > > > > My team is adjusting their programming today to end missions in > home (since that was not clear to the team). I know change is inevitable, > but this year it has been an extreme challenge for the team to accurately > interpret and understand all the changes in rules. These are middle > schoolers, not adults and even I had to constantly change my > interpretation/view when reading other coaches/FLL advisors questions, > answers, and comments. > > I hope the judges are understanding! > > > > *Anne Moore, M.Ed.* > > Secondary Gifted Resource Teacher > > ACA & Dual Enrollment Coordinator > > > > *PAEMST, 2013* > > *PIAEE, 2015* > > > > * **Apple* *Teacher* > > > > *"Success is not final, failure is not fatal; it is the courage to > continue that counts." * > > *Winston Churchill* > > > > Goochland High School (804) 556-5322 > > Blog: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__goochland.schoology.com_user_12043773_blog&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=k6Oa5GxfBPFMgGjb2r5QIoEOeBZs9xbNIpA0kLw_kFQ&m=XJLMXyDEsLhquS3RTo6pQf0oxZZq9j3xMJZw8JX91rU&s=Pn24RVVWjX2lvBeKbMuwjocb5-Uidyxi_NED7KK26w8&e= > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__goochland.schoology.com_user_12043773_blog&d=DwMGaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=k6Oa5GxfBPFMgGjb2r5QIoEOeBZs9xbNIpA0kLw_kFQ&m=1mLPa7fVCmcEXvcy0ww8DbJJMmnzxuAImlDk9RiA2uk&s=ASowsvmgLm6TUl_l5LKSfcUqIJcxV19UcSzs_ZEPseQ&e=> > > Email: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> *email > contact preferred > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 8:54 AM Wardensky, Shellye < > [log in to unmask]> wrote: > > So, I’m confused, where is home and where is launch? > > > > *From:* First Lego League in Virginia and DC [mailto: > [log in to unmask]] *On Behalf Of *Bryanne Peterson > *Sent:* Thursday, November 7, 2019 8:43 AM > *To:* [log in to unmask] > *Subject:* Re: [VADCFLL-L] Robot returning to Home/Launch Area > > > > *Use Caution* > > This message originated outside of York County School Division. > Use caution when opening attachments, clicking links or responding to > requests for information. > > Yes. You may lose points per the new rules. 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Kids pick up the robot to run the next > mission- We will lose precision point for this? > > > > Rajesh Shah > > Coach Raining Robot > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > On Nov 6, 2019, at 8:28 PM, VA-DC FLL Referee Advisor <[log in to unmask]> > wrote: > > > > The Rules were rewritten for this year's Challenge and several have > changed. Rule 27 tells you what you need to know. > > > > *27. INTERRUPTION PROCEDURE **– If you **Interrupt **the Robot, stop it > instantly, then calmly pick it up for the next Launch.* > > > *Where was the Robot Interrupted? **➔* *Completely * > *in Home: No problem. **➔* *Not Completely **in Home: Lose a Precision > Token. * > > > > Your team may Interrupt the Robot at any time and anywhere on the Field. > When you do interrupt the Robot, bring it to the Launch Area to prepare it > to Launch again. > > Your team will Lose a Precision Token if the Robot is not completely in > Home when you Interrupt it. > > > > Sometimes it's part of the team's strategy to grab the Robot as soon as it > make a change out in the Field (maybe to save time and earn more points), > and sometimes teams try to keep as many Precision Tokens on the Field as > possible. That's your team strategy, and it's something that your team can > mention to the Robot Design judges when talking about how your team's > strategy relates to your design. > > > > Steve Scherr > > Virginia-DC FLL Referee Advisor > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 5:02 PM Elaine Simmons <[log in to unmask]> > wrote: > > Our team has the same question. The tournament guide seems to imply that > the robot had to return to the home area in between launches. This would > be a change from years in the past when the mat only had a launch area and > returned to the launch area each time. > > > > Thanks for your help! > > > > On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 9:10 AM SS < > [log in to unmask]> wrote: > > Can the EV3 brick come to launch for a re run or should it go back to Home > and the technician picks it and places it in Launch for re run. > > ------------------------------ > > To UNSUBSCRIBE or CHANGE your settings, please visit > https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-l.html and select "Join or > leave the list". > VADCFLL administrative announcements are sent via VADCFLL-ANNOUNCEMENTS-L. > Visit https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-announcements-l.html to > subscribe. > > ------------------------------ > > To UNSUBSCRIBE or CHANGE your settings, please visit > https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-l.html and select "Join or > leave the list". > VADCFLL administrative announcements are sent via VADCFLL-ANNOUNCEMENTS-L. > Visit 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