And as pointed out in several earlier emails, it could be part of a team’s
strategy to save time by intentionally interrupting the robot outside of
home, perhaps to perform an additional mission that is worth more than the
loss of a token...

Ben Clark
Panda Cubs


On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 10:54 AM Heather L. Meek <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> If you string several missions together in your code, of course they can
> complete them.  Kids are just supposed to avoid touching the robot until it
> has returned home to begin their next set of code.
>
> Heather Meek
> Instructional Technology Coach
> Ellis Elementary School
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> *From:* First Lego League in Virginia and DC <[log in to unmask]>
> on behalf of Kaitlin W. Chidester <[log in to unmask]>
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 7, 2019 10:31 AM
> *To:* [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
> *Subject:* Re: [VADCFLL-L] Robot returning to Home/Launch Area
>
> So to be clear we have them complete one mission from launch, return to
> home then they can pick it up, put it back in launch and then run another
> mission? Is that right?  Can they not complete two missions while out on
> the field after leaving launch? For example they can't do M06 and M08 then
> return home?
>
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> *From:* First Lego League in Virginia and DC <[log in to unmask]>
> on behalf of aprille.j.ericsson <[log in to unmask]>
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 7, 2019 10:17 AM
> *To:* [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
> *Subject:* Re: [VADCFLL-L] Robot returning to Home/Launch Area
>
> I agree with Heather's and others comments. I am at a loss for the
> reasoning behind the changes. There will be many teams that will not be
> aware of the difference between home and launch.
>
> I find it disheartening that we will penalize teams if they bring the
> robot back to it original launch location. This would be typical to
> Industry. I note FLL has already made it a smaller base. So it is already
> more challenging.
>
> How do we provide feedback to FLL?
>
> Best regards
> Dr. Aprille Ericsson
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> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Heather Ramsey <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: 11/7/19 9:32 AM (GMT-05:00)
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [VADCFLL-L] Robot returning to Home/Launch Area
>
> I’m sorry but this is ridiculous! Now they lose points for touching the
> robot in the launch area. This elementary school not Microsoft programming
> professionals!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 7, 2019, at 09:05, Wardensky, Shellye <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the info.  J
>
>
>
> *From:* Anne Moore [mailto:[log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>]
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 7, 2019 9:01 AM
> *To:* Wardensky, Shellye <[log in to unmask]>
> *Cc:* [log in to unmask]
> *Subject:* Re: [VADCFLL-L] Robot returning to Home/Launch Area
>
>
>
> *Use Caution*
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> Home is the area that is not covered by the mat.  The launch is the
> gridded section of the mat - you cannot have any part of the robot or
> attachments over the black line (at least that is our interpretation) when
> launching.
>
>
>
> My team is adjusting their programming today to  end missions in
> home (since that was not clear to the team).  I know change is inevitable,
> but this year it has been an extreme challenge for the team to accurately
> interpret and understand all the changes in rules.  These are middle
> schoolers, not adults and even I had to constantly change my
> interpretation/view when reading other coaches/FLL advisors questions,
> answers, and comments.
>
> I hope the judges are understanding!
>
>
>
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> On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 8:54 AM Wardensky, Shellye <
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>
> So, I’m confused, where is home and where is launch?
>
>
>
> *From:* First Lego League in Virginia and DC [mailto:
> [log in to unmask]] *On Behalf Of *Bryanne Peterson
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 7, 2019 8:43 AM
> *To:* [log in to unmask]
> *Subject:* Re: [VADCFLL-L] Robot returning to Home/Launch Area
>
>
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> Yes. You may lose points per the new rules. Robots are supposed to start
> in launch and end in home.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 8:28 AM Anne Moore <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> Thank you for asking for clarification - we are confused also!
>
>
>
>
>
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> On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 8:17 AM Rajesh Shah <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
> I want to confirm one more time  because this is confusing.
>
>
>
> We have mission run where robot starts in launch area and ends up back in
> the exact same spot in launch area. Kids pick up the robot to run the next
> mission-  We will lose precision point for this?
>
>
>
> Rajesh Shah
>
> Coach Raining Robot
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
> On Nov 6, 2019, at 8:28 PM, VA-DC FLL Referee Advisor <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
> 
>
> The Rules were rewritten for this year's Challenge and several have
> changed. Rule 27 tells you what you need to know.
>
>
>
> *27. INTERRUPTION PROCEDURE **– If you **Interrupt **the Robot, stop it
> instantly, then calmly pick it up for the next Launch.*
>
>
> *Where was the Robot Interrupted? **➔* *Completely *
> *in Home: No problem. **➔* *Not Completely **in Home: Lose a Precision
> Token. *
>
>
>
> Your team may Interrupt the Robot at any time and anywhere on the Field.
> When you do interrupt the Robot, bring it to the Launch Area to prepare it
> to Launch again.
>
> Your team will Lose a Precision Token if the Robot is not completely in
> Home when you Interrupt it.
>
>
>
> Sometimes it's part of the team's strategy to grab the Robot as soon as it
> make a change out in the Field (maybe to save time and earn more points),
> and sometimes teams try to keep as many Precision Tokens on the Field as
> possible. That's your team strategy, and it's something that your team can
> mention to the Robot Design judges when talking about how your team's
> strategy relates to your design.
>
>
>
> Steve Scherr
>
> Virginia-DC FLL Referee Advisor
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 5:02 PM Elaine Simmons <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
> Our team has the same question.  The tournament guide seems to imply that
> the robot had to return to the home area in between launches.  This would
> be a change from years in the past when the mat only had a launch area and
> returned to the launch area each time.
>
>
>
> Thanks for your help!
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 9:10 AM SS <
> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> Can the EV3 brick come to launch for a re run or should it go back to Home
> and the technician picks it and places it in Launch for re run.
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