If you string several missions together in your code, of course they can complete them. Kids are just supposed to avoid touching the robot until it has returned home to begin their next set of code.
Heather MeekInstructional Technology CoachEllis Elementary School
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Subject: Re: [VADCFLL-L] Robot returning to Home/Launch AreaSo to be clear we have them complete one mission from launch, return to home then they can pick it up, put it back in launch and then run another mission? Is that right? Can they not complete two missions while out on the field after leaving launch? For example they can't do M06 and M08 then return home?
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Subject: Re: [VADCFLL-L] Robot returning to Home/Launch AreaI agree with Heather's and others comments. I am at a loss for the reasoning behind the changes. There will be many teams that will not be aware of the difference between home and launch.
I find it disheartening that we will penalize teams if they bring the robot back to it original launch location. This would be typical to Industry. I note FLL has already made it a smaller base. So it is already more challenging.
How do we provide feedback to FLL?
Best regardsDr. Aprille Ericsson
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I’m sorry but this is ridiculous! Now they lose points for touching the robot in the launch area. This elementary school not Microsoft programming professionals!-------- Original message --------From: Heather Ramsey <[log in to unmask]>Date: 11/7/19 9:32 AM (GMT-05:00)Subject: Re: [VADCFLL-L] Robot returning to Home/Launch Area
Sent from my iPhoneThanks for the info. J
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Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 9:01 AM
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Subject: Re: [VADCFLL-L] Robot returning to Home/Launch Area
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Use caution when opening attachments, clicking links or responding to requests for information.Home is the area that is not covered by the mat. The launch is the gridded section of the mat - you cannot have any part of the robot or attachments over the black line (at least that is our interpretation) when launching.
My team is adjusting their programming today to end missions in home (since that was not clear to the team). I know change is inevitable, but this year it has been an extreme challenge for the team to accurately interpret and understand all the changes in rules. These are middle schoolers, not adults and even I had to constantly change my interpretation/view when reading other coaches/FLL advisors questions, answers, and comments.
I hope the judges are understanding!
Anne Moore, M.Ed.
Secondary Gifted Resource Teacher
ACA & Dual Enrollment Coordinator
PAEMST, 2013
PIAEE, 2015
Apple Teacher
"Success is not final, failure is not fatal; it is the courage to continue that counts."
Winston Churchill
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On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 8:54 AM Wardensky, Shellye <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
So, I’m confused, where is home and where is launch?
From: First Lego League in Virginia and DC [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Bryanne Peterson
Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 8:43 AM
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Subject: Re: [VADCFLL-L] Robot returning to Home/Launch Area
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Use caution when opening attachments, clicking links or responding to requests for information.Yes. You may lose points per the new rules. Robots are supposed to start in launch and end in home.
On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 8:28 AM Anne Moore <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Thank you for asking for clarification - we are confused also!
Anne Moore, M.Ed.
Secondary Gifted Resource Teacher
ACA & Dual Enrollment Coordinator
PAEMST, 2013
PIAEE, 2015
Apple Teacher
"Success is not final, failure is not fatal; it is the courage to continue that counts."
Winston Churchill
Goochland High School (804) 556-5322
Blog: http://goochland.schoology.com/user/12043773/blog
Email: amoore@glnd.k12.va.us *email contact preferred
On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 8:17 AM Rajesh Shah <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
I want to confirm one more time because this is confusing.
We have mission run where robot starts in launch area and ends up back in the exact same spot in launch area. Kids pick up the robot to run the next mission- We will lose precision point for this?
Rajesh Shah
Coach Raining Robot
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On Nov 6, 2019, at 8:28 PM, VA-DC FLL Referee Advisor <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
The Rules were rewritten for this year's Challenge and several have changed. Rule 27 tells you what you need to know.
27. INTERRUPTION PROCEDURE – If you Interrupt the Robot, stop it instantly, then calmly pick it up for the next Launch.
Where was the Robot Interrupted?
➔ Completely in Home: No problem.
➔ Not Completely in Home: Lose a Precision Token.
Your team may Interrupt the Robot at any time and anywhere on the Field. When you do interrupt the Robot, bring it to the Launch Area to prepare it to Launch again.
Your team will Lose a Precision Token if the Robot is not completely in Home when you Interrupt it.
Sometimes it's part of the team's strategy to grab the Robot as soon as it make a change out in the Field (maybe to save time and earn more points), and sometimes teams try to keep as many Precision Tokens on the Field as possible. That's your team strategy, and it's something that your team can mention to the Robot Design judges when talking about how your team's strategy relates to your design.
Steve Scherr
Virginia-DC FLL Referee Advisor
On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 5:02 PM Elaine Simmons <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Our team has the same question. The tournament guide seems to imply that the robot had to return to the home area in between launches. This would be a change from years in the past when the mat only had a launch area and returned to the launch area each time.
Thanks for your help!
On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 9:10 AM SS <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Can the EV3 brick come to launch for a re run or should it go back to Home and the technician picks it and places it in Launch for re run.
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