Yes, I think that activating the storm is one of the very-easy missions. The challenge is more interesting for teams that strive for the elusive "perfect 400" and thus don't want to leave it to chance that the storm will knock them down to 395. In that case, there's a universe of strategies for how to nullify the storm and still stay within the rules. Mike >Ok thanks. On re-reading I think I get both your points. I guess I >was looking for more of a challenge here - seems like this a pretty >wimpy mission- all you basically have to do is push down to release >the wheel which is just outside of base (and make sure you didn't >put anything in the way of its travel beforehand). > >From: First Lego League Discussion >[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Michael Blanpied >Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 7:36 PM >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: [VADCFLL-L] Question on the "Test Levees" mission > >Glenn, > >I don't agree with your points 1 and 2. The point of the mission is >to give the storm a chance to batter the levees. Actions are >precluded if they prevent the storm from doing so. If the storm is a >wimpy one that rolls through a gap, that's the storm's fault, not >the team's. > >1. Ruling 17 says that the storm wheel must be allowed to hit or >miss the levees. If it rolls through a gap, then it has missed. At >that point it no longer matters whether it later coasts to a stop, >hits the wall, veers off down the table, or hits a strategic object. > >2. Pre-existing levees are not strategic objects. Thus, the storm is >not "strategically blocked" if it hits a pre-existing levee. (In >fact, part of the point is that the storm likely WILL hit one of >those levees, in the absence of clever action on the part of the >team, and may cost the team five points in so doing. In that case >the team gains 15 points for the storm and loses 5 points for the >fallen levee, a net gain of 10 points.) > >And remember, when it comes to counting levee points, the only thing >that matters is which ones are standing, and on what color of >low-lying shore, at the end of the match. How the levees ended up >there is completely up to the team; since there's nothing said about >that, anything goes, anything at all. > >Cheers, >Mike Blanpied > > >I'm still a bit unclear on the "test levees" mission and thought I'd >get the opinion of this group. The mission description and latest >rule updates (from the Q&A) are as follows: > > > >Mission: See how levees survive when a storm approaches (activate >the wheel-roller). The wheel must be allowed to roll freely until it >either hits or misses the levees. The activation is worth 15 points >whether the levees are hit or missed, but worth no points if the >wheel is strategically blocked by anything other than released >levees near or past the green shore. > > > >RULING 17 - Levee Blocking 1 > >Nothing new here; just re-stating based on questions: 1) The storm >wheel must be allowed to "hit or miss" levies, so the robot can't >tamper with the thrower's operation (If I throw a baseball at the >moon, of course it won't hit the moon, but did I miss? No!---My arm >was too wimpy to give me the chance to miss), and 2) The only levee >blocks allowed to block the wheel are those far enough away from the >thrower as to be considered "near" the shores by the referee. Make >them obviously closer than half way if you want a favorable call >from the ref. > > > >RULING 19 - Levee Blocking 2 > >A strategic object in the pink grid area is not a problem if the >wheel never hits it. So if you're reinforcing your delivered levies >with a strategic object, make sure the levies themselves are still >what the storm would hit, and you'll be all set. > > > > > >The question is on the interpretation of the phrase "worth no points >if the wheel is strategically blocked by anything other than >released levees". Here's how I interpret the rule. > > > >1. The wheel rolls through a gap in the levees and is >eventually stopped by the wall of the competition table: 0 Points, >the wheel was blocked by something other than a "released levee" >(but was it "strategically blocked" ??). > >2. The wheel is blocked by one of the three pre-existing >levees that were in place at the start of the round: 0 Points, the >rule says only "released" levees are allowed to block it (I presume >that means ones that the robot has placed there?). > >3. The wheel coasts to a stop without running into anything: 15 Points. > > > >If I understand the gist of this challenge, it's to "release" the >levees in such a manner that they stop the "storm" (wheel). > > > >Does this sound right??: > > > >______________________________________________________________ >______________________________________________________________ To >UNSUBSCRIBE or CHANGE YOUR SUBSCRIPTION, please visit >https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-l.html and select "Join or >leave the list". 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