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I suggest that it be offered to tournaments as something to consider.

I also suggest that each of us poll our teams to 
see what the kids think--would they be interested 
to see winning presentations and robot 
performances at the end of the day? And would 
they be willing to present to the audience if 
asked to do so? If there's overwhelming support 
from the kids, then tournaments should be 
encouraged to include this if time allows.

Cheers,
Mike

>
>That may work for some tournaments, and that's 
>great. Remember also though that there are two 
>divisions and in some tournaments first and 
>second place winners in several categories. 
>Would you restrict the presentations to just the 
>top place winners in each from each division? 
>Looking at the minimum there, it will easily be 
>another half hour added on the end of the day.
>
>I'm not saying this isn't possible...just something else to consider.
>
>Cynthia
>Judge
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <mailto:[log in to unmask]>Bobbie Arbogast
>To: <mailto:[log in to unmask]>[log in to unmask]
>Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 9:36 PM
>Subject: Re: [VADCFLL-L] food for thought about scores
>
>That is a wonderful suggestion!  It would only 
>take about another 10-15 minutes in the grand 
>finale to do that.  bobbie
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Burke, Stephanie 
><<mailto:[log in to unmask]>[log in to unmask]>
>To: <mailto:[log in to unmask]>[log in to unmask]
>Sent: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 8:40 am
>Subject: Re: [VADCFLL-L] food for thought about scores
>
>One idea I think would be useful is to have the top teams demonstrate
>their work at the end of the tournament during the awards ceremony.
>Have the team with the top challenge score re-run their 2.5 min missions
>when everyone can watch it.  Then the team with the top
>design/programming score show their robot and describe a few of their
>unique features, and the team with the winning project presentation
>re-run their presentation.  This way, all the teams have a chance to see
>what a really good team (of kids just like them) can do, and what is
>possible.  In my experience, they are so busy during the day, they have
>little time to really see what the others teams did, and don't really
>know which of the teams they do see are the best.  I think that most of
>the teams can then see how their results compare to the best at the
>competition without worrying about a specific score, and that gives them
>a very good understanding of what they could work on for=2
>0next year.
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: First Lego League Discussion
>[<mailto:[log in to unmask]>mailto:[log in to unmask]] 
>On Behalf Of Robert Haskins
>Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 8:25 AM
>To: <mailto:[log in to unmask]>[log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: [VADCFLL-L] food for thought about scores
>
>Speaking as a coach, *any* feedback would be better than what we get
>now, which is basically a score (with the recent discussion, per the
>FLL the score means "almost nothing"). Noting the rubric with how the
>team could improve on specific rubric items would be great.
>
>On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 6:15 AM, Steve Scherr 
><<mailto:[log in to unmask]>sscherr@gmailcom> 
>wrote:
>>  John--an alternative might be a feedback guide, helping judges
>understand what types of
>>  feedback you and others find useful.
>>
>>  In my experience as a judge (in another state), I made it a point
>always to write some comments
>>  down.  Very often they were of the form "Great job on XXX!  Think
>about working on YYY in the
>>  future."  It was hard to give more detailed feedback because of the
>time constraints.  The things I
>>  emphasized varied based on the type of judging I was doing, of course.
>>
>>  Would Listserv readers consider this type of feedback helpful, or do
>coaches think that a variety of
>>  more generic but wider-sweeping areas are better?  Examples:
>enthusiasm, eye contact, right
>  > vo
>lume, team member involvement, etc.?
>>
>>  Steve Scherr
>>  Judge
>
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