There is no reason in the challenge not to drive over the walls, especially if the robot can reliably orient itself. Something that looks like "bulldozing" the walls will get a comment from the referee. A robot getting hung up on the wall and damaging it or detaching it from the table is just an unfortunate occurrence (It might get a sigh from the ref, though!) Steve On Fri, 25 Sep 2009 17:07:50 -0400, Glenn Roberts <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >Hmm. I have to admit that one of the strategies my team is considering >involves driving over the walls. I didn't see anything in the rules that >preclude this but I wonder if they did this and the wall got damaged could >that be ruled "deliberate" damage? or would it only be deliberate if they >clearly intended to damage them (e.g. "bulldozing" or otherwise knocking >them out of the way)? > >Is this something that should be submitted to the Q&A blog? > >- glenn > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: First Lego League in Virginia and DC >[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Phil Smith III >Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 11:46 PM >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: [VADCFLL-L] Guide wall problems > >I wouldn't worry about accidental damage. The general rule is that it's >gotta look deliberate and/or play into the team's strategy (I guess that >would imply deliberate). I.e., if your robot tries to make points by going >over the guide walls, knocking them down in the process, that would probably >NOT be acceptable. If they're known to be fragile and they fall over when >bumped, it's as likely to hurt as help, and is not (or at least should not >be) penalizable (hmm, apparently that's not a word, but you know what I >mean!). > >And yes, sometimes they will be glued -- but you can't count on that, >either. >-- >Phil Smith III >Virginia State Judge Advisor, 2007, 2008, 2009 >Judge Advisor, Northern Virginia Regional tournaments, 2007, 2008 >Division 1 Judge Advisor, Virginia State tournament, 2006 > >Coach, The Capital Girls, Oak Hill (retired) >Team 1900 (2002) >Team 2497 (2003) >Team 2355 (2004) >Team 1945 (2005) >-----Original Message----- >From: First Lego League in Virginia and DC >[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Eric Palmer >Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 10:06 PM >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: [VADCFLL-L] Guide wall problems > >I'll have to go back and read the rule again about if we damage the guide >walls unintentionally. They are just a fragile design. But if the walls are >not solid it may change the behavior of the robots and the time it takes for >the judges to piece them together may be a factor. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE or CHANGE your settings, please visit https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-l.html and select "Join or leave the list". -- VADCFLL administrative announcements are sent via VADCFLL-ADMIN-L. Visit https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-admin-l.html to subscribe.