This is an interesting idea. Let me mention a few things, though (the first two I am pointing out as chair of the steering committee; the third point is just a point I want to make personally):

1) We have voted to move the conference to Illinois (and away from FL) for 2011; we have not decided to never have the conference in FL again (or to not have the conference in FL until FL changes some of its laws). . Our intention was to consider rotating the conference through two or three locations. We may of course decide not to rotate it, or at least not to have that rotation include FL, but this would need to be decided by a vote of the membership. And, we will be hypocritical if we issue a statement and then four or six years down the road return to FL (even if the laws have not changed).

2) Even if we do decide not to hold the conference in FL again (or until the objectionable laws change), we would still need a vote of the membership to decide whether or not to issue a position statement (the APA does this when it issues such statements). 

3) Of course I think the FL anti-gay laws are terrible (and my own family is vulnerable in FL because of these laws). But it is hard to be a a moral purist about anything like this, since there are many moral reasons to support/withdraw support from something (a state, an institution, etc). Anywhere we locate the conference, we will be compromising on something (e.g. we have chosen a hotel that pays its workers less well than the Sheraton Sand Key). So, are we choosing to prioritize condemning FL's anti-gay laws through our choice of venue, when there may be something else of equal or greater (or incommensurable) importance? It might be right to prioritize our condemnation of FL's anti-gay laws, but I am just suggesting that we  should have a (difficult) conversation about FEAST's values and how to weigh them before we act automatically.

Lisa



On Oct 9, 2009, at 4:15 PM, Keller, Jean wrote:

FEAST steering committee and FEAST members,
Reading these articles makes me think, could/should FEAST write up a position statement explaining our recent decision to no longer hold our conference in the state of Florida, and point to Florida's anti-gay policies as a prime reason for this decision (and refer to this case). My thought is this statement could explain our principled objections and also document the financial impact to the state of Florida of our decision, and then send a copy of it as a letter to the editor to some local Florida papers, chambers of commerce, perhaps some key Florida legislators.

It's perhaps a small way to weigh in on this, but if other groups follow suit, it may have some impact.

Jean



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Thank you, Bonnie, Joan, and Alison. --Claudia

Alison Jaggar wrote:
Yes, you speak for me Joan. Even though I too have loved the beach.
Thank you Bonnie.

Alison.

On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 2:36 PM, Callahan, Joan <[log in to unmask]
<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:

   I'd like to thank Bonnie for bringing the Janice Langbehn/Lisa
   Pond case to the attention of FEAST-L subscribers.  Over all these
   years I, too, have enjoyed the Clearwater location without really
   giving thought to Florida politics on the matter of gay families
   and the importance of attending to such politics in deciding where
   a group such as FEAST should meet.  Bonnie has fought long and
   hard for this change, which is well justified on more than one
   ground.  I, for one, am very grateful to her for sticking with the
   struggle.

   Joan

   On 10/7/09 11:47 AM, "Bonnie Mann" <[log in to unmask]
   <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:

   Hey Everyone,

   Much appreciation to Zoe for writing.  Maybe this will help her
   and the other kids feel better about the decision to move the
   location.  For those of us who live at a great distance from the
   Florida location, bringing our children is not a possibility.  I
   have four daughters, none of whom has ever been able to accompany
   me to FEAST because I could never afford the massive airfare costs
   from Oregon.  So also from a kids perspective, this is an issue of
   fairness.  The location (as does any location) makes things
   possible for families who live closer that are not possible for
   families who live further.  I must also say that kids with
   adoptive lesbian parents are disadvantaged by the Florida
   location--and I know that many lesbians have brought their
   children to Florida.  As an adoptive lesbian parent I would
   hesitate very much to bring my children to Florida.  If that seems
   odd, just a reminder (below... I pulled it off a website) about
   what happened to Janice Langehn and Lisa P!
    on!
   d's children, who happened to be in Florida for a cruise when one
   of their mothers had a fatal stroke.  I hope that the new site
   will be child friendly, but it is important to acknowledge that
   the old site was only friendly for some families and not for
   others.  So my children, over all the years I've been attending
   FEAST (since early on, except for this year), have missed out.
    They've never been able to come.

   Florida Federal Court Dismisses Lawsuit of Lesbian Denied
   Information About and Visitation with Dying Partner in ER
   http://www.blogher.com/florida-federal-court-dismisses-lawsuit-lesbian-denied-information-about-and-visitation-dying-partne

   A few days ago, a U.S. District Court for Southern Florida
   dismissed Janice Langbehn's case against the Public Health Trust
   of Miami-Dade County, Jackson Memorial Hospital and 3 doctors. For
   those unfamiliar with, or don't remember Janice's story I'll give
   you quick synopses.

   In February 2007, Janice Langbehn, Lisa Pond, and their 3 children
   traveled to Florida for an R Family Cruise. But before the ship
   left port, Lisa collapsed and had to be rushed to a hospital.
   Janice and their children followed, arriving shortly after. The
   hospital refused to take information about Lisa's medical history
   from Janice, even after a copy of Power of Attorney had been faxed
   to the hospital. Janice and the children were not given any
   information about Lisa, and were denied visitation even after the
   doctor had indicated that there was no medical reason Lisa could
   not have visitors. In the mean time, other families, including
   children, were taken back to visit with patients in the trauma
   unit. The only visitation Janice was allowed in the ER, was 5
   minutes while the priest to delivered last rites. At some point
   during the ordeal, Janice was told by a social worker that she was
   in an anti-gay state and city, and she would not be acknowledged
   as family. Apparently, t!
    ha!
   t went for their adopted children too.

   When Lisa was finally moved from the ER to a non-trauma room in
   the hospital, Janice was not notified. She had to find out from
   Lisa's sister, who was told by the hospital staff when she
   arrived. It was more than hour after Lisa had been moved. Yes,
   Lisa's sister had more rights than her partner of 18 years did.
   Later, Dade County Examiner and the State of Florida both denied
   Janice a death certificate, which she needed for life insurance
   and social security benefits for the children.

   The court ruling, says the trauma unit does not have and
   obligation to allow the patient's family, health care surrogate,
   or other visitors, access to the patient. And since she was
   allowed in for the 5 minutes of last rites, that's good enough (my
   words). The ruling found that since she was briefly consulted
   twice, the Power of Attorney had not been denied or ignored. The
   ruling also stated that there was not enough evidence to show a
   fiduciary relationship. This has some bearing as to why it's
   justifiable under the law to keep loved ones apart, but I don't
   understand why. Since I am not a lawyer, and all of this legal
   speak makes eyes glaze over, this is about as much as I got out of
   reading the ruling. For a more in depth discussion of the ruling
   and it's implications, check out Leonard Links post Federal Judge
   Dismisses Tort Claims Against Florida Hospital and Staff Who
   Failed to Accord Compassionate Treatment to Life Partner of Dying
   Lesbian.

   On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 08:58:54 -0400, Sally Scholz
   <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
   wrote:
Thanks Zoe and Anna!  For what it is worth, my two kids were
   similarly disappointed.  The Florida location was a nice place to
   bring families. We are trying to keep an open mind and hoping that
   the Illinois location will also be a nice place for kids too.

I was particularly delighted to see Zoe's letter-- I admire her
   courage and pluck in writing.

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Date:    Tue, 6 Oct 2009 14:22:15 -0400
From:    Anna Stubblefield <[log in to unmask]
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Subject: Re: change of location for next FEAST

I want to thank all of the organizers for a wonderful FEAST a couple
of weeks ago! I enjoy this conference so much!

My daughter, who accompanied me to FEAST this year and in 2007 is
very, very sad that the conference will not be in Florida again next
time. I tried to explain to her the political reasons behind the
decision to try a new location, as you will see from her message
below, although she does not yet grasp the implication of harm being
done that is not directly to an individual (we'll work on that). I
confess being very torn myself between loving the Florida
   location, in
part but not totally because it is a great place to bring my
   daughter,
and agreeing with the political concerns about where our money
   is going.

Anyway, Zoë wanted to express her protest to the organization about
the change in location, and I certainly did not want to quash
   her urge
to do so, so I promised to pass on her message. Here it is:

Dear Feast,

I'd like to make a suggestion on account of the location of
   Feast. As
a ten year old girl, I'm sure you don't take me seriously. And I'm
sure you think I only want you to stay in Florida because I
   think it's
fun there. I can tell you it's fun for everyone involved in the
program and you are making a huge mistake. Florida may have homo
sexual issues and a bad environment, but they haven't done anything
wrong to the speakers or anyone involved, have they? I'm sure no one
there has given you a hassle about anything. Why move to a cold, 3
star place when you can live in peace at a 5 star hotel, with a
   beach,
and a pool, and great places to visit?? If things have gone wrong,
notify me and I'll take back the comment. Just a suggestion.
   Thank you
for listening.

                     Sincerely Yours,
                         Zoë Stubblefield
                        (Daughter of Anna
                        Stubblefield, Speaker
                             at Feast of 2009)


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Anna Stubblefield
Chair, Department of Philosophy
Rutgers University-Newark

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