You all are not the only ones with issues bumping that bone piece out of place. One little bump messes everything up. Mike On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 6:23 AM, Stephen Scherr <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Jeff, > the Body Forward rules are pretty firm on these questions: > > 23 - ROBOT ACTIONS STAND - Anything done to your field by the active ROBOT > outside Base STAYS that way, unless the active ROBOT changes it. > • Objects outside Base are not repaired, reset, recovered, or moved out of > the way by hand. > • This means the robot can ruin its own opportunity to accomplish tasks, > and it can even spoil previous progress/results > • If your active robot (untouched by you) loses contact with cargo, the > cargo stays where it comes to rest unless/until the active robot regains > contact with it. It may not be recovered by hand. Anything that comes off > the table is kept by the ref. > Exception: Parts not designed to separate from the robot, but which > separate due to obviously accidental DAMAGE may be recovered by YOU, by > hand, at any time – even if they have cargo (gift: you keep any cargo in > question). > > So the answers are no, the referee may not reset a model during the match, > and no, there are no stray objects this year, and anything that the robot > places on the field stays where it is. (Note the exception about obviously > accidental damage that breaks off an attachment). > > Yes, the team and robot have to deal with these type of situations during > the match--but the robot might be able to undo some of the things it does. > For example, it might be able to reset the leg so that the bridge can be > inserted and the goal kicked. Most types of resetting are more complicated > than an FLL team is likely to be able to do, but realigning the leg might be > quite possible, if it happens enough in practice to make the team aware of > the issue. > > Steve > > On Oct 18, 2010, at 11:24 PM, Jeff Schatz wrote: > > I would like to confirm my assumptions regarding two situations > > 1. Robot leaves base disrupts and model such that it can no longer be > used to score. Specifically, on the patent mission, it hits the bone bridge > leg such that it can no longer be used to kick the ball into the goal. Have > we lost the opportunity to score or can we request the referee to put it > back in place since we bumped it accidentally? (assume we’re out of luck > and lose the points) > > 2. If we leave an attachment behind (in this case on purpose) but > leave it in the wrong place due to robot inconsistency. If the attachment is > now in the way of our future missions, can we (A. )Ask for it to be removed > as a stray object (assume the answer is no, we’re out of luck and must deal > with it) (B.) Remove it ourselves and take a touch penalty (assume the > answer is yes, we can do this) > > I’m sure the rules cover these items but it’s not always easy to feel 100% > positive in my interpretation, so I want to be check so I don’t steer the > team wrong. > > Many thanks, > > Jeff Schatz > Head Coach > Cougar Spirit > > > ------------------------------ > To UNSUBSCRIBE or CHANGE your settings, please visit > https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-l.html and select "Join or leave > the list". > VADCFLL administrative announcements are sent via VADCFLL-ADMIN-L. Visit > https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-admin-l.html to subscribe. > > > ------------------------------ > To UNSUBSCRIBE or CHANGE your settings, please visit > https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-l.html and select "Join or leave > the list". > VADCFLL administrative announcements are sent via VADCFLL-ADMIN-L. Visit > https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-admin-l.html to subscribe. > -- -- Michael Brown Y!:nrune AOL:nrune GPS: Team Virginia Brown's -- To UNSUBSCRIBE or CHANGE your settings, please visit https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-l.html and select "Join or leave the list". -- VADCFLL administrative announcements are sent via VADCFLL-ADMIN-L. Visit https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-admin-l.html to subscribe.