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As John notes, there's lots of cross-pollination from tournaments. What's
critical (again, echoing what John wrote) is that the kids do the work. As
Head Judge at tournaments, I've seen coaches who won't let the kids touch
the robot in practice; I also once found a coach happily sitting by himself
in the pits programming the robot while his team ran around. I approached
him - wearing my judging finery - and said Hi; he responded in kind, didn't
seem to have any awareness that he was transgressing. And no, that team's
robot had not just scored a 400!

-- 

Phil Smith III

 

Coach, The Capital Girls (retired)

Team 1900 (2002)

Team 2497 (2003)

Team 2355 (2004)

Team 1945 (2005)

 

From: First Lego League in Virginia and DC
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of John Barrett
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 10:42 AM
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Subject: Re: [VADCFLL-L] Idea exchanging between teams

 

Dave,

I don't run multiple teams, but I think the scenario you describe is
acceptable.  Why?  Well, the work needs to be the kids own work, that is
true.  But a common and expected practice at tournaments is to see the work
other teams have done.  Kids remember interesting solutions from one year to
the next and will employ some of these concepts in their new designs.
Likewise, there has been talk about having teams scrimmage before any
tournaments.  I would expect the same sort of outcome.  In my experience,
unless your teams are building the exact same robot, they won't be able to
"steal" another team's design.  Sharing (intentional or not) may spark some
creative juices and help them see a solution for their own robot that they
otherwise may have never thought about.  And isn't that really what this is
all about?

 

John


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On Aug 24, 2012, at 9:58 AM, David Lawrence wrote:





Hi,

 

  Thanks again to everyone who responded to my earlier post about multiple
teams. You've given us the confidence to go ahead and run two teams this
year. I do have a question regarding the rules that I'm hoping someone can
clarify:

 

One of my other coaches and I have had children involved in Odyssey of the
Mind where they drill into you the very strict rule about no "Outside
Assistance". Basically, everything done in preparation for the competition
and at the competition must originate from the team members only and all
must be there. No collaboration with either students or parents outside of
the team is allowed concerning the project. For FLL, this seems to be not
quite so strict.

 

My question is: If I have two teams practicing in the same room and a pair
of kids, one from each team, work together on a challenge solution, can both
teams use that solution in the competition? What if one team just sees
another team's solution and tries to implement it themselves?

 

Thanks in advance,

-Dave

 

 

 

 

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