Dave, I don't run multiple teams, but I think the scenario you describe is acceptable. Why? Well, the work needs to be the kids own work, that is true. But a common and expected practice at tournaments is to see the work other teams have done. Kids remember interesting solutions from one year to the next and will employ some of these concepts in their new designs. Likewise, there has been talk about having teams scrimmage before any tournaments. I would expect the same sort of outcome. In my experience, unless your teams are building the exact same robot, they won't be able to "steal" another team's design. Sharing (intentional or not) may spark some creative juices and help them see a solution for their own robot that they otherwise may have never thought about. And isn't that really what this is all about? John -- John J. Barrett Industrial Medium Software, Inc. 1616 Anderson Road McLean, VA 22102 (c) 703-231-5094 (p) 703-286-0818 (f) 703-286-0888 http://www.industrialmedium.com On Aug 24, 2012, at 9:58 AM, David Lawrence wrote: > Hi, > > Thanks again to everyone who responded to my earlier post about multiple teams. You've given us the confidence to go ahead and run two teams this year. I do have a question regarding the rules that I'm hoping someone can clarify: > > One of my other coaches and I have had children involved in Odyssey of the Mind where they drill into you the very strict rule about no "Outside Assistance". Basically, everything done in preparation for the competition and at the competition must originate from the team members only and all must be there. No collaboration with either students or parents outside of the team is allowed concerning the project. For FLL, this seems to be not quite so strict. > > My question is: If I have two teams practicing in the same room and a pair of kids, one from each team, work together on a challenge solution, can both teams use that solution in the competition? What if one team just sees another team's solution and tries to implement it themselves? > > Thanks in advance, > -Dave > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE or CHANGE your settings, please visit https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-l.html and select "Join or leave the list". > VADCFLL administrative announcements are sent via VADCFLL-ANNOUNCEMENTS-L. Visit https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-announcements-l.html to subscribe. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE or CHANGE your settings, please visit https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-l.html and select "Join or leave the list". -- VADCFLL administrative announcements are sent via VADCFLL-ANNOUNCEMENTS-L. Visit https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-ANNOUNCEMENTS-l.html to subscribe.