Dear Lori Anne,
Certainly you are quite right.
We are functioning in a different atmosphere academically since the internet.
I had to get used to the fact that now it's ok to communicate with anyone at all, stranger or colleague, highly distinguished emeritus or post graduate, with no introductory fanfare. The recipient is free to answer or not, so it's fair game.
Another knock out is that people just email a query for any paper they need. Anything.
It's a new world academically -- in some superficial ways.
For better, I
think.
Happily, all the replies you are generating are also public so we all profit from your query.
Thanks very much for it, and for this reply.
I used to rely on Alison Jaggar's early Politics and Feminist Theories of Human Nature -- I think that's the right title, it's now thirty years old, but had such a comprehensive bibliography and covered such a dispassionate range of issues and perspectives; I would use it again. Her presentation of Marxism and the Lockean tradition of abstract individualism are superlative, and I've been citing it in many contexts and for many purposes to do with power differentials ever since.
Of course it is heavy going, perhaps, compared to a lot of the material that is more emotive that has come to play a seminal position ever since.
In any case much depends upon your audience's orientation and why they are taking the course. In those days, to even point out the differential in gender capacity and preparedness to raise one's hand, indeed to draw attention to the norms of male domination that governed the way the class was taught, was taboo--the students were stunned into stony and resentful silence, and wouldn't communicate again. Perhaps 1980s classrooms were different than they are now. Perhaps it depends upon where you are, as well, geographically.
Anyway thanks for not excluding me for my naughty reply.
Helen
From: Lori Anne Parker-Danley <[log in to unmask]>
To: helen lauer <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 10:34 PM
Subject: Re: introductory essay on feminist theory/philosophy recommendations
Sorry, Helen,
I posted my response before your other follow ups had posted--the ones offering some help. So please excuse that; I certainly wasn't trying to belabor any corrective point! It wasn't the frankness (I think I was equally as frank and the world needs as many frank women as it can get), but it was just surprising to me and a bit harsh I thought. People ask questions and suggestions for reading and syllabi all the time. I am not sure how that is the same as asking someone else to do your research. But if that's how you
see it then maybe you see this a lot or has been your experience.
I don't care if anyone of feast agrees with me or not; I didn't post for that reason. I just felt compelled to offer an alternate view of that question asking so others would not feel strange or judged as scholars for asking for text suggestions.
And, yes, I have asked for text suggestions before (so perhaps I am biased) and I may or may not be of a different generation then you. But then again ... my own hand had to actually open the books, my brain take in the info, and my pen move across the page, so there is something to be said for that, no?
Best,
Lori Anne
Lori Anne Parker-Danley, Ph.D.
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From: helen lauer [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 05:07 PM
To: 'Lori Anne Parker-Danley'
Subject: Re: introductory essay on feminist theory/philosophy recommendations
Well, norms change. When I was coming up, it was unacceptable to expect other people to do your research for a paper or a course syllabus. To this day peers in my age group are unwilling to share the work they do to put together a course outline. I beg your pardon for being frank, i know that is a bad thing. I made a mistake. I agree with you, I'm awful. and as you posted to FEAST, everyone will agree with you. Thanks. Helen Lauer
From: Lori Anne Parker-Danley <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 8:23 PM
Subject: Re: introductory essay on feminist theory/philosophy recommendations
That's nice. Now people (particularly the "juniors") who may want to ask a question may wonder: "by asking this one question will someone assume I am being lazy?" As if there isn't enough to worry about. I don't recall anyone
asking for her entire syllabus to be put together for her. Asking questions on a listserv that should be collegial shouldn't in any way be "dangerous."
Lori Anne Parker-Danley, Ph.D.
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Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 5:44 PM
Subject: Re: introductory essay on feminist theory/philosophy recommendations
I recommend you do your own homework, starting with the texts you have read which made the penny drop for you, and then guide others through the path you took to understand these concepts, at least for starters. Then you google terms and look for more recent material since presumably the texts that turned you on may not be the
latest. But if they are any good their bibliographies will make reference to the seminal texts, which you would want your students to be exposed to. Crimey, since when do young faculty depend on everybody else to do their syllabi? I'm sorry, I'm sure you didn't intend an answer from the likes of me. The risks one takes, using listservs. Terrible, isn't it? H. Lauer Philosophy & Classics Dept. U. Ghana, legon
Hello,
I was wondering if any of you have had success providing lower-level feminist theory students with an introductory piece on "what is feminism/feminist theory/philosophy?" and if so, what piece you might recommend.
I teach a wide range of majors in an upper-level Feminist Theory undergraduate course at a state university. My students tend to be motivated but do not necessarily possess any background in philosophy or theory.
Thanks in advance,
Talia
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