Prasanna, Welcome to FIRST LEGO League. I hope you and your team have a FUN season! Since I have not seen any other responses to your question, I thought I would offer my interpretation of the rules (provided below): - Except for the end of the match (Rule 51), you can *always* pickup your robot during the match. The real question I think you are asking is what will the referee do when she or he is enforcing the rules (e.g. will you get a penalty?) - Since the cargo was not with the robot "during the most recent start" and you touched the robot when it "has cargo OUTSIDE BASE", the referee takes that cargo out of play. - Assuming you touched an "autonomous robot which is OUTSIDE BASE", you will also get a Robot Penalty *Rationale:* http://www.firstlegoleague.org/sites/default/files/Challenge/FLL_WORLD_CLASS/FLL-WORLD-CLASS-Challenge-FINAL-v2.pdf 16 - Cargo - *Cargo is any strategic object or mission model the robot has with it for transport or release.* Objects in accidental contact, objects fully released, and objects “all done being pushed” are not cargo. 27 - In - An object is “in,” “into,” or has “reached” an area if any bit of that object crosses the area’s perimeter. - Said another way... To be “in” an area is to penetrate the volume over or below what defines that area. - Barely “in” is considered “in” unless “COMPLETELY in” is required. - “Touching” is not part of the requirement for being “in.” - Objects are ruled on independent of each other, and independent of their transports/containers. — Exception: A cluster of small objects is considered one object. - “Out” and *“outside” always mean COMPLETELY out.* 44 - Cargo Penalty - *Any time you touch the robot, no matter where it is, if it has cargo OUTSIDE BASE it didn’t have during the most recent start, the referee takes that cargo out of play.* 43 - Robot Penalty - These occur whenever you touch an autonomous robot which is OUTSIDE BASE. The penalty’s value is given in the Missions, below. 51 - The Scoring Process - END-OF-MATCH SCORING - Most of your score depends on the conditions at the exact time the match ends. - The field is the evidence of most of your score... *When the match ends, PLEASE DON’T TOUCH ANYTHING!* The referee first needs time to record the condition of the field on a score sheet and come to agreement with you (kids only) about what points were scored or missed and why. *Penalties* If a Robot, Sprawl, or Junk penalty earned (as described in the Rules), the referee keeps account by obvious placement of these penalty markers in some manner as to stay out of the way of you and your robot. Loss of cargo is its own penalty. *Robot*, Sprawl, or Junk *Penalty*: -10 EACH (Max Penalties Of These Types = -80) Cargo Penalty: Loss Of Cargo On Sat, Oct 11, 2014 at 9:26 PM, Prasanna <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Hello, > > I am a rookie coach and had a question on bringing the robot to the base > manually - I checked the guide and could not find any information related > to this. > > If the robot has picked up a knowledge loop or the basket and while on the > way to the base, if it gets obstructed, can the Robot be picked up along > with the cargo? I see in the guide that loss of cargo is its own penalty ( > along with the 10 points for handling the robot), but in this case, the > cargo is still attached to the robot or in full control of the robot. > > Any assistance or pointers to the documentation would be greatly > appreciated. > > Regards, > Prasanna > ------------------------------ > To UNSUBSCRIBE or CHANGE your settings, please visit > https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-l.html and select "Join or > leave the list". > VADCFLL administrative announcements are sent via VADCFLL-ANNOUNCEMENTS-L. > Visit https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-announcements-l.html to > subscribe. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE or CHANGE your settings, please visit https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-l.html and select "Join or leave the list". -- VADCFLL administrative announcements are sent via VADCFLL-ANNOUNCEMENTS-L. Visit https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-ANNOUNCEMENTS-l.html to subscribe.