Hi, I have a quick question about the base ceiling. Rule #11 says base has an invisible ceiling 12'' high. My question is, how strictly is this rule enforced? For example; if the robot height with an attached arm is 13'' or 14'', will that create a problem? Do the referees actually measure height of the robot? Thanks Oz -- To UNSUBSCRIBE or CHANGE your settings, please visit https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-l.html and select "Join or leave the list". -- VADCFLL administrative announcements are sent via VADCFLL-ANNOUNCEMENTS-L. Visit https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-ANNOUNCEMENTS-l.html to subscribe.