Thanks Steve. It makes sense. What confused the kids was the youtube videos that we watched from previous years that had huge (and I mean huge) robots & attachments. So, there was a disagreement within the team whether the height would be an issue or not. Thanks again for the clarification. Oz On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 12:29 AM, VA-DC Referee Advisor <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Yes, the referees can tell if a robot is 13-14" tall during a start or > restart, and we'll measure and warn you about it during the practice round. > > Rule 3, Benefit of the Doubt, suggests leniency when "the thickness of a > (thin) line is a factor." That wouldn't be the case here. > > As Curt noted, figuring out how to stay within the constraints aligns with > our Core Values. > > But so is having fun, and achieving team-defined goals is really > important. I used to be a lot stricter, and I wouldn't let a robot that > was out of spec start. I've learned more since then, and if the team > really wants to run their program with a not-allowable start, then that's > okay with me--they just won't get any points for what they do. But they > can still show off their cool concept and be applauded for creativity, and > maybe that is the team's goal, instead of scoring bushels of points. (Not > all referees will think this way, so, as always, talking to your referee > about unusual strategies before the match start is highly advisable.) > > Steve Scherr > VA-DC FLL Referee Advisor > > > On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 11:19 PM, Ozcan Adiyaman <[log in to unmask]> > wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I have a quick question about the base ceiling. Rule #11 says base has > an invisible ceiling 12'' high. > > > > My question is, how strictly is this rule enforced? For example; if the > robot height with an attached arm is 13'' or 14'', will that create a > problem? Do the referees actually measure height of the robot? > > > > Thanks > > Oz > > ------------------------------ > To UNSUBSCRIBE or CHANGE your settings, please visit > https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-l.html and select "Join or > leave the list". > VADCFLL administrative announcements are sent via VADCFLL-ANNOUNCEMENTS-L. > Visit https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-announcements-l.html to > subscribe. > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE or CHANGE your settings, please visit https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-l.html and select "Join or leave the list". -- VADCFLL administrative announcements are sent via VADCFLL-ANNOUNCEMENTS-L. Visit https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-ANNOUNCEMENTS-l.html to subscribe.