Hi Oz, Maybe your team has not quite embrace the Core Values of FLL in asking this question. I would recommend that you bring a ruler with you and measure your kids’ robot at their competition. The FLL Core Values are the cornerstones of the FLL program. They are among the fundamental elements that distinguish FLL from other programs of its kind. By embracing the Core Values, participants learn that friendly competition and mutual gain are not separate goals, and that helping one another is the foundation of teamwork. - See more at: http://www.firstlegoleague.org/mission/corevalues#sthash.nW2yWgsA.dpuf Our FLL Core Values: · We are a team. · We do the work to find solutions with guidance from our coaches and mentors. · We know our coaches and mentors don't have all the answers; we learn together. · We honor the spirit of friendly competition. · What we discover is more important than what we win. · We share our experiences with others. · We display <http://www.usfirst.org/aboutus/gracious-professionalism> Gracious Professionalism® and Coopertition® in everything we do. We have FUN! Best wishes, T. (Curt) Tran Judges Advisor, MEH Falls Church Regional ’14 Judges Advisor, GMU Regional ’11, ’12 & ’13 Judges Advisor, TJHSST Regional ’09 Mentor Team #5390, Kilmer-I ’09 Mentor Team #8941, Kilmer-II ’09 Coach Team #324, Scitobor ’08 Coach Team #3563, Rabid Llama Lords ’07 From: First Lego League in Virginia and DC [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ozcan Adiyaman Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 11:20 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [VADCFLL-L] Question about Base ceiling Hi, I have a quick question about the base ceiling. Rule #11 says base has an invisible ceiling 12'' high. My question is, how strictly is this rule enforced? For example; if the robot height with an attached arm is 13'' or 14'', will that create a problem? Do the referees actually measure height of the robot? Thanks Oz _____ To UNSUBSCRIBE or CHANGE your settings, please visit https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-l.html and select "Join or leave the list". VADCFLL administrative announcements are sent via VADCFLL-ANNOUNCEMENTS-L. Visit https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-announcements-l.html to subscribe. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE or CHANGE your settings, please visit https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-l.html and select "Join or leave the list". -- VADCFLL administrative announcements are sent via VADCFLL-ANNOUNCEMENTS-L. Visit https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-ANNOUNCEMENTS-l.html to subscribe.