More than two mini figures attached to the Apprenticeship model is fine--as long as you don't bring copies of the two people in this year's kit  (Update 30).

Steve Scherr
VA-DC FLL Referee Advisor

On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Fredrik Nyman <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Sure thing.  Minifigs are Regular Elements (Rule 18).

On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 2:17 PM, Hal Swetnam <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
So you can have more than 2 mini figures attached to the apprenticeship structure (your own 2 and 2 others?)

Brick Bandits 

On Nov 10, 2014, at 2:10 PM, Fredrik Nyman <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Yes, that is correct.  

On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 2:08 PM, Frank Levine <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
If I understand the rules correctly, our model can have non-FLL minifigs attached as well.  The FLL provided ones need to be attached at the tournament.



On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Fredrik Nyman <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Yes, use the mini figures provided. 

Your team builds and brings a model. Once at the table, they attach the figures provided to the model and get points for that. 

I am guessing that the reason they aren't supposed to bring figures and balls is to reduce chaos and kids and coaches inadvertently walking off with mission models from the tables. 

On Monday, November 10, 2014, Hal Swetnam <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Hi there
just trying to figure out the rules on Apprenticeship.  Are you saying that to get the full 35 points the team has to use the mini figures provided by the tournament? I thought they could bring their own? Is it a matter of getting full points?
Thanks for any clarification.  Here was the latest update we saw:

30 – APPRENTICESHIP PEOPLE, WHITE CIRCLE Update 25 was meant to remind you about Rule 18, Exception 2. You ARE allowed to arrive with people as part of your model, if they aren’t duplicates of this year’s mission model people. (Clarification of Update 25) Of the two interpretations of what could be meant by “white circle,” area vs perimeter, the area is what matters. So if your model ends up touching only the interior, and not the edge, that’s okay. (Apprenticeship clarification)


The Brick Bandits

On Nov 9, 2014, at 11:32 PM, VA-DC Referee Advisor <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

We had 8 FLL tournaments in Virginia this weekend, and it looks like teams had a great time.  I know that the referees were impressed at all the creative solutions teams found to accomplish their selected missions, and I've heard good things from the judges too.  I hope that the week 1 activity during core values judging helped to raise everyone's expectations!

There a few things that surprised some teams at the robot game tables, that I would like to give teams a heads-up about.

First a reminder--don't trust any pictures or video unless the text of the Robot Game agrees with them.  According to Rule 5:

"When there is conflict between pictures/videos and text, the text takes precedence!"

1)  Engagement mission setup
    According to the Field Setup, and Game Update 5, the engagement pinwheel setup is with its red arm up.  (That means that the main body of the arm points straight up.)  Both pictures on pages 10 and 29 are incorrect.

2)  Bouncing the Sports Ball
    Teams at several tournaments discovered that the blue ball may not bounce the same on competition or practice tables as it does on the table that they practiced on.  I know that at some tournaments, there was a mixture of behaviors among both the competition and practice tables.  We're sorry about this unexpected behavior, but it is covered by Rule 4, Variability, and no team will know what to expect until they get to the table.

3)  Ramming the Door
    As described in the mission and rules, the team doesn't get points for opening the door by ramming it and breaking it.  You must push down on the handle to allow the door to open.

4)  Loop in the Senses mission
    Update 32 was a little too subtle about the loop in the Using the Right Senses mission.  The mission requirement is that the loop is "released" only by pushing the slider.  The update says not to expect the the loop will be "ejected" by using the slider.  The update is also trying to say that "release" means "to allow to be moved or taken", so, once your robot pushes the slider to lift the weight out of the way, the robot is allowed to remove the loop from the model.

5)  Reverse Engineering--making the original model during setup
    Your team is required to build an original model out of all 6 pieces when they get to the table, even if they don't plan to do the Reverse Engineering.  See the Field Setup, and Updates 14 and 24.  The two Robot Handlers are the only ones allowed to build the model.   Being prepared for this is part of being a Gracious Professional.

6)  Apprenticeship--try it out!
    If your team isn't doing the Apprenticeship mission, they really should take a look at Update 7

7)  Apprenticeship People
    As discussed earlier today, your team is required to use the people at the table in order to score full points on the Apprenticeship mission.

8)  Kidnapping
    Please be careful, both at the competition tables and the practice tables, that you don't take any mission models, such as the people or the blue ball.  If you discover them, take them back immediately.  Removing them hurts other teams, and thus is against Gracious Professionalism.
    You shouldn't bring the Apprenticeship people from your practice kit, and you should avoid bringing any blue balls, if at all possible.  Tournament volunteers will think that they belong to the tournament kits, and will ask you to hand them over.

Best wishes to all FLL teams in the upcoming weeks!

Steve Scherr
Virginia-DC FLL Referee Advisor

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