Here are the rules about Safety: R14 says that you have to be asking questions about Equipment or Models that are completely in Safety, since no object can stay partly in and partly out of Safety (except for non-strategic Storage [R11]) R14 – Stranding – If the UNINTERRUPTED Robot loses contact with something it was transporting, that thing must be allowed to come to rest. Once it does, here’s what happens, depending on its rest location... ● Equipment - Completely in Safety: Keep it. - Partly in Safety: Take it completely into Safety + keep it + Junk Penalty (immediately logged on Ref’s Sheet). - Completely outside Safety: Leave it as is. ● Model - Completely in Safety: Keep it. - Partly in Safety: Give it to the Ref (out of play). - Completely outside Safety: Leave it as is. You may hand-recover unintended fragments from a truly broken Robot any time, with no Penalty. R10 says that the Technicians can touch objects completely in Safety: 1. R10 – Hands Off – If something on the Field is not completely in Safety, you are not allowed to touch it except as specifically described in a Mission, Rule, or Update. R12 allows the Technicians to "arrange [objects] as desired" as part of a Launch 1. R12 – Launching – A proper Launch (or re-Launch) goes like this: - ● Ready Situation - Your Robot and everything related to its next Autonomous period are arranged as desired and all completely contained within and under the limits of BASE. - The Ref can see that nothing in Base is moving, and that you’re not touching anything. So, the answers to the questions are generally: Yes--your team may handle objects that are completely in Safety and load them onto the Robot for delivery or other use. Two things to note: R12 requires that the Robot and everything it will be using is completely within *BASE* for a launch. D08 says that if you want to "attach" a model, like Methane, to the Robot, then the attachment has to be kind of loose: D08 - Model – - - ● If you combine a Model with something, the combination must be loose enough that if asked to do so, you could pick the Model up and nothing else would come with it. Steve Scherr Virginia-DC FLL Referee Advisor On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 12:45 PM, Neal Sikka < [log in to unmask]> wrote: > Can anyone clarify- > > Can the team place, for example, the engine from safety onto the robot? > or must the robot pick it up on its own? > > Same for methane, if brought into safety, could they be attached to the > robot then sent back out for delivery to the truck, etc? > > Thanks for any help. > > Neal > > Neal Sikka > [log in to unmask] > ------------------------------ > To UNSUBSCRIBE or CHANGE your settings, please visit > https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-l.html and select "Join or > leave the list". > VADCFLL administrative announcements are sent via VADCFLL-ANNOUNCEMENTS-L. > Visit https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-announcements-l.html to > subscribe. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE or CHANGE your settings, please visit https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-l.html and select "Join or leave the list". -- VADCFLL administrative announcements are sent via VADCFLL-ANNOUNCEMENTS-L. Visit https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-ANNOUNCEMENTS-l.html to subscribe.