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Thomas...the rules will never be written in a way that tells your team what to do.  It simply tells you what is possible and what is not possible to get points from. The rest is up to your team to be creative and innovative in their approach to solving the missions set before them.  Your score of 300+ is a great score for a first year team and it would be good to just enjoy what they've learned this year.  A lot of innovative thinking of how to solve the missions comes from experience and learning from other teams. You will see so many different, creative ways of solving the same problem...that's what makes it fun.  However, the rules are never going to tell you how to solve the missions...only what is possible.  This year they just required a little closer reading. If you go back in and read the rules (and the updates) on the truck mission, they really are clear on the two conditions that are needed to score 110 pts.  1) The bin has to be west of the truck guide, and 2) the yellow bin has to be resting on the truck. The rest is up to your team. That's a good challenge for the off-season...your team can think of as many ways as they can to get both sets of points and see if they can accomplish them.  But personally, right now, when you've just finished your tournament, it might be good to just let them feel proud of the work they've done this season and how much fun they had.  
Amy 


     On Tuesday, November 10, 2015 11:22 AM, Scott H. Shumway <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
   

 I'm not sure what the game maker's intent was, but as long as those two conditions are met at the end of the match, they both count. Outside of violating other rules (e.g. Taking models apart), it doesn't matter how it happens. They don't want to spell out getting to the "final black line" because the rules generally aren't about HOW to accomplish things. There are a few "method constraints" this year, but the truck isn't one of them. 

In the linked YouTube video, it looks like the yellow bin is still over the end of the guide and thus not completely east of the guide.

Shumway

> On Nov 10, 2015, at 11:02 AM, Thomas (Tweeks) Weeks <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> 
> Oh.. is that possible without lifting the truck up and over the dump-tab at the end of the track?  If so, I didn't even realize this (nor did anyone I asked).  If scoring both 50+60 is possible simply by detecting that final black line and stopping at that point.. that REALLY needs to be spelled out as a goal.  Trying to decipher intent through cold hard rules is very difficult. Our season is over and we're still just now (as a group) deciphering intent of the mission goals.
> 
> Can someone in the know let us know.. was the intent of the truck mission to push it to a specific point.. so that the load was not dumped, but still east of the guide rail? If so.. no one I spoke to (including the refs) seemed to perceive or communicate this desired end state.
> 
> Here's the ONLY example I have seen of this being done:
>        https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.youtube.com_watch-3Fv-3DWsKNz10-2DqVc&d=BQIFAw&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=J5fb0ELkRoh7TzAGYz99sSMvB-c7i4AC0HDT2OVPrww&m=9nrOqcafpDMPvwE6mwNfHeymyWynalQ1ctb3kKXkPhs&s=LKr5KmokeENgOpOL8L_NOEUgD3G9CLk3TtXYwFnDBxc&e= 
> 
> Tweeks
> 
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> From: First Lego League in Virginia and DC <[log in to unmask]> on behalf of Scott H. Shumway <[log in to unmask]>
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> Subject: Re: [VADCFLL-L] Tournament scores
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> As long as the yellow bin is both completely east of the truck guide and still completely supported by the truck, you get 110. It's a fine line, but the cab of the truck can be on the truck guide while the bed of the truck with the yellow bin is completely east of the guide. That should get the 60+50.
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