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I don't think it's the EV3 Lessons scorer, as the kids have gotten the same score calculating it by hand.  I think the rules are just more tricky this year and just take more attention to catch all the details of them.  It's nice that those scorers are out there (EV3 Lessons and the others) but there is a scoring sheet on the FLL page that teams can download and hand score themselves.  It is easier for the teams to use the scorers, but the kids actually learn more if they are doing it themselves as least at first.  At the tournament, if there is some discrepancy it is far better for the kids to have the experience with this so they can talk with the judges about it.  It's just a good lesson in having the kids read and reread (and reread again) the rules all through the season.
Amy 


     On Monday, November 9, 2015 4:54 PM, Frank Levine <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
   

 Given the fact that we are in tournament season and many teams are meeting this week and using the EV3Lessons scoring app, I would appreciate it if the discussion regarding errors (or not errors) remained out in the open.  I checked it against our interpretations of the rules and found no problems.  As long as the whole thing is handled with Gracious Professionalism, it is better to have more eyes on potential problems.
The guys at EV3Lessons did a great job on this, please don't restrict the flow of information about such a public resource.
Frank LevineThe Robotic Rockets
On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 3:44 PM, Thomas (Tweeks) Weeks <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Hehe.. I was afraid of this..
Taking discussion off list. :)  Ping Sanjay or I if interested in the discussion.. :)

Tweeks
p.s. we really appreciate the awesome community.. both here, and by folks like the EV3 Lessons folks.. which we (especially us ignorant rookie teams) rely on so heavily :)

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From: First Lego League in Virginia and DC <[log in to unmask]> on behalf of EV3 Lessons <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 3:39 PM
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Subject: Re: [VADCFLL-L] Tournament scores

@Tweeks:  Could you let us know what "grading errors" were in the scoring tool we made that you referred to in your post?   It has been tested by many refs. It was used at a Qualifying Tournament last weekend and the refs and/or teams using it have not mentioned any error.

If there are errors, we would love the opportunity to correct calculation issues or clarify wording if it was just an interpretation issue by teams.

https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__ev3lessons.com_resources_scorer_score.html-23en-2Dus&d=BQIFAw&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=J5fb0ELkRoh7TzAGYz99sSMvB-c7i4AC0HDT2OVPrww&m=ailQO14rcyaiGrNhowCrnShyHOvyrTJuIOCCoO9RCys&s=1QpIBA53ByA4MxnMR7aFrVIIk6919cl2VImkEOhxmog&e=

Thank you,
Sanjay and Arvind
EV3Lessons

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