Really love what you wrote, Noelle!

Kim


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On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 5:40 PM, NOELLE MCAFEE <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Dear FEASTies,
>
> Professor Watchlist is run by a 21-year-old kid named Charlie Kirk. He’s
> written up here: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__nymag.com_thecut_2016_11_turning-2Dpoint-2Dusa-2D&d=CwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=Oo4TCJF8pXcsWPDC7Sy8bdP2IJ6ZbST0v2xdYtuNH80&m=am7aLy68zX8jkUQlsJ5Bd-HU9m9T9t4aXfB8aF8Wguw&s=PhDdbp_I1ERFu6uQbBKyP_ftoE8eOl4nIV9EJbIFP8g&e= 
> launches-professor-watchlist.html
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__nymag.com_thecut_2016_11_turning-2Dpoint-2Dusa-2Dlaunches-2Dprofessor-2Dwatchlist.html&d=CwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=Oo4TCJF8pXcsWPDC7Sy8bdP2IJ6ZbST0v2xdYtuNH80&m=xIXsXiiSLUBdNpuHL4nc1a0F7qmRoW4XDZaDVilvcv4&s=sVjUpt2R7aD8aiW38qCte6GRMEk5ESjZDYgRvoNbSZU&e=>
>
> I can’t help but think of him as a student who’s ranting without thinking
> but might be persuaded to start thinking.  So I just went to the “contact
> us” form on the site, gave my full name and contact info, and wrote this:
>
> I am curious about the Professor Watchlist. I cannot find anywhere on your
> site a definition of what a "radical agenda" would be. Would that include
> advocating for democratic self-rule? Plato thought that was radical and
> wrong. Thomas Jeffersond did not. Does Mr. Kirk?
>
> Also I do not see evidence at all of conservative students being
> discriminated against. Do you have any such evidence? Most colleges and
> universities have avenues for students to complain if they are being
> discriminated against.
>
> I see that you have taken down the rhetoric about people being
> "un-American" and that's good. Certainly speaking up for one's principles
> is very American -- but also note that having evidence to back up one's
> claim is the hallmark of what good professors do, including all the ones I
> know on your list.
>
> You have included my colleague George Yancy on your list but with
> absolutely no evidence of any kind that he is promoting anything radical in
> his classroom or that he has discriminated against any of his student. I
> gather you, Mr. Kirk, are trying to educate yourself. I applaud that.
> Perhaps you could take a philosophy course to learn about reasoned
> argumentation and also the fallacy of trying to tar someone with
> inflammatory innuendo. Mr. Kirk seems like someone with such promise. I
> would be happy to talk with him. Honestly. I have left my number here in
> the form.
>
>
> I’ll let you all know if I hear back!
>
> best to all,
> Noëlle McAfee
>
>
> On Dec 1, 2016, at 5:30 PM, Dan Hicks <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> When this site was first launched, numerous people trolled it, posting
> fake "tips".  Some of the more memorable ones showed up on Twitter; people
> were submitting "tips" on Indiana Jones, Hogwarts faculty, and the like.  I
> believe at one point these fake "tips" overloaded the site's database.
>
> If some people aren't comfortable submitting a "tip" on themselves — for
> Alison's reasons, or perhaps others — maybe they would feel comfortable
> submitting a fictitious "tip" to jam the system.
>
> Dan
> ----
> Dan Hicks
> Science and Technology Policy Fellow
> American Association for the Advancement of Science
> Hosted in the National Science Foundation
> Directorate for Computer and Information Systems
> Washington, DC
>
> "Cautious, careful people, always casting about to preserve
> their reputation and social standing, never can bring about a reform. Those
> who are really in earnest must be willing to be anything or nothing in the
> world's estimation." -- Susan B. Anthony
>
> On 1 Dec, 2016, at 5:27 PM, Emanuela Bianchi <[log in to unmask]
> <[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>
> Honestly, I'm not sure I'm all that keen on giving this thing any more
> attention than it deserves. Nor in a time of proto-neo-McCarthyism in
> helping to assemble lists for them. Let them do their own homework! Not so
> concerned with personal safety here, but with trying resist a culture of
> clickbait and trolling in uncertain times. I do appreciate the need for
> solidarity, however, so I'm a bit torn.  I'd prefer, however, that it was
> on our terms than theirs.  I'm happy to be convinced otherwise, however.
>
> Best,
> Emma
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original message -----
> From: "McWhorter, Ladelle" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: George Yancy's "dangerous ideas"
> Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2016 22:05:57 +0000
>
> I checked with George. He likes the idea. But we need a lot of people to
> do it to be effective. Might take longer than by tomorrow to organize.
>
> Del
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 1, 2016, at 5:03 PM, Ann Garry <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> i went to their site.  it's quite a bizarre list.
> also not clear how to sign oneself up other than "submit a tip" -- there's
> no "comments" or "contact us" section in which to do it for oneself.
>
> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 1:50 PM, Bonnie Mann <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> Those of us who are comfortable doing this and on board with it should
> probably identify a "launch time," maybe tomorrow afternoon, so we all
> start sending in these emails at once.
>
> Bonnie
>
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> Dr. Bonnie Mann
> Head and Professor of Philosophy
> Department of Philosophy
> University of Oregon
> Eugene, OR 97403-1295
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> 541-346-5549
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> Author:
> Sovereign Masculinity:  Gender Lessons from the War on Terror (Oxford
> University Press, 2014)
> Women's Liberation and the Sublime:  Feminism, Postmodernism, Environment
> (Oxford University Press, 2006)
>
> On 2016/12/01 13:42, Sara Protasi wrote:
>
> I had the same thoughts as Alison.
> (I have two young girls ((7 months and 4 years)) I won't stop teaching
> the way I do (which probably would warrant me a spot on the list if I
> were more important) but I won't call attention to me explicitly.
>
> That doesn't mean the strategy of asking to be included is not worth
> of reflection. I just wanted to voice my support for Alison's worry.
>
> Sara
>
> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 1:20 PM Wendy K. Lochner <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
> I just wrote them to say that I am an editor who not only publishes
> radical left professors but believed what they say. I said the t
> should create a special section for the likes of us.
>
> Publisher
> Philosophy, Political Theory, Religion, Animal and Critical Life
> Studies
> Columbia University Press
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 1, 2016, at 10:54 AM, Shari Stone-Mediatore
> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> In case any of you have  not yet seen Yancy's wonderful response
> to his name being put on the new academic watch-list, the link is
> below.  It re-energized me for class today!
>
>
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.nyti
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>
> [1]
>
> --
>
> Shari Stone-Mediatore
> Professor of Philosophy
> Ohio Wesleyan University
> Delaware, OH  43015
> United States
> 740-368-3795
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