I never saw the first letter as an attack on Tuvel. I saw it as a critique of the review process at Hypatia. It is common for an article submitted to a journal to contain flaws that are meant to be addressed by the review process. Tuvel's article is no different than countless other articles in this respect. There is no faulting Tuvel for writing such an article, and I don't think any of the signatories to the first letter were taking issue with Tuvel. From what I could tell, the signatories were taking issue with a review process that (1) did not adequately identify appropriate reviewers, or (2) ground review in scholarship written by persons of color and trans scholars on the philosophy of race/critical race theory and trans studies. So, at least from my perspective, since there was no attack on Tuvel, no defense of Tuvel is needed, and any letter defending her is perpetuating a conflict that never existed. Tina Botts Cal State Fresno On Sun, May 28, 2017 at 11:42 AM, Rebecca Kukla <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Just to be clear, Naomi and all, I think that first letter was circulated > well before this whole thing spiralled out of control. I decided not to > sign it because, although sympathetic with its thrust, I did not agree with > some of its specific points, and because by the time it went around the > associate editors at Hypatia had already responded and I felt the debate > had moved on. But I think there were perfectly good reasons to sign the > first letter. > > At this point, though, enough already. I also agree with Camisha that this > new letter is offensive on various fronts including for its erasure of > race. But even a better 'counterletter' would have been ill-conceived at > this point. I agree with Naomi and Camisha both that there are multiple > good reasons not to put one's name on this letter. > > Rebecca > > On Sun, May 28, 2017 at 2:25 PM, Naomi Scheman <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> I appreciate Rebecca's post, especially the call to work on the issues >> rather than "metametametacritiques," but, as a committed second-wave >> feminist and former president of my university's AAUP chapter, I want to >> make it clear that there is nothing contradictory about my also having >> signed the original open letter, despite the claims in this one. I don't >> know how many of the signatories to this letter actually read the original >> one, still less the continuing discussion around it: had they done so, it >> should have been obvious just how off-base this letter is. >> >> For a start, every effort has been made by the critics to take the focus >> off of Rebecca Tuvel and place it where it belongs--on the profession of >> philosophy and on what those of us who have loved, nurtured, relied on, and >> been proud of *Hypatia *see as a lamentable and hopefully correctable >> lapse in editorial judgment. And, crucially, the problem is NOT with the >> conclusions Tuvel argues for, nor with her right to make, or *Hypatia* to >> publish, arguments for those or any other conclusions. The problem--as has >> been made clearly over and over again--is with the failure of the article >> to substantially engage, and, crucially, the failure of the review process >> to call for substantially engaging, with the work of trans theorists, of >> critical race theorists, and of Black feminists, all of whom have written >> extensively on the topics of the article in ways that Tuvel is completely >> free to disagree with but not to ignore. It is symptomatic of the >> marginalization of such voices in the profession that such ignorance is >> passed over rather than being treated in the same way as any other failure >> to engage with the work of those most knowledgeable about and theoretically >> sophisticated in the area in which one is writing. >> >> The point is NOT to demand ideological conformity nor to suggest, as was, >> for example, misleadingly reported in *The New York Times*, that only >> members of marginalized groups can write about those groups: the relevant >> slogan is not "nothing about us except by us" or "nothing about us we don't >> like"--it's "nothing about us *without* us." The call is for inclusion, >> for respect, for intellectual humility, for more--not less--critical >> thinking and writing. It's for taking seriously the responsibility that >> goes along with academic freedom. This open letter is a thinly veiled >> attack on the work of those--many of them professionally vulnerable--who >> are challenging philosophy and the broader culture to take seriously voices >> the more privileged among us (and I include myself in that group) have been >> taught not to listen to, let alone to learn from. Waving the banner of >> academic freedom to silence criticism and close one's ears to discomforting >> voices is the height of hypocrisy, and I urge signers of this letter to >> consider removing their names. >> >> Naomi Scheman >> Professor Emerita, Philosophy and Gender, Women, & Sexuality Studies >> University of Minnesota >> >> On May 28, 2017, at 10:59 AM, Rebecca Kukla <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> >> So people are angry about an open letter that they felt attacked a junior >> person so they thought the best solution was yet another open letter >> attacking what was mostly junior people? This has to stop somewhere. And >> this affair has to be allowed to die already. >> >> I didn't sign the first letter and I am not signing this one either. >> >> People need to stop trying to settle their academic and political >> disagreements via open letters designed to publicly shame by ganging up on >> other people. It's not even clear what action item this one is calling for. >> (The article is already being published, with only tiny word changes to >> bring it in line with current linguistic conventions that avoid slurs, and >> the other two items are too vague to be actionable.) >> >> The issues in this area are super important, so let's actually work on >> them, rather than devoting our productive hours to metametametacritiques. >> >> Rebecca >> >> On Sun, May 28, 2017 at 10:39 AM, Veltman, Andrea - veltmaal < >> [log in to unmask]> wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> >>> Julian Vigo ([log in to unmask]) asked me to forward the following >>> message to the FEAST listserv. >>> >>> >>> Best wishes, >>> >>> >>> Andrea >>> >>> >>> ______________________________________ >>> >>> Dr. Andrea Veltman >>> Associate Professor of Philosophy >>> Department of Philosophy & Religion >>> James Madison University >>> MSC 8006 >>> Harrisonburg, VA 22807 >>> Office phone: 540-568-4236 <(540)%20568-4236> >>> [log in to unmask] >>> >>> My latest book, *Meaningful Work*, is recently published by Oxford >>> University Press: >>> >>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__global.oup.com_academic_product_meaningful-2Dwork-2D9780&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=Oo4TCJF8pXcsWPDC7Sy8bdP2IJ6ZbST0v2xdYtuNH80&m=1B4sjE2QNR3rFvHobsEUSerRH8YQy33xAy_z-fIni-8&s=mDsOALMHujXyopSsQ-th2BVJ6dFVmcchUTdSih88FoU&e= >>> 190618179?cc=us&lang=en& >>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__global.oup.com_academic_product_meaningful-2Dwork-2D9780190618179-3Fcc-3Dus-26lang-3Den-26&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HUp8-bkYMlNgd3ZJBxWBKsBsFAFGHrEZg21p9gxugJA&m=LOV-2yxVfBhZ6rrELChk7V70HvBgW6zEshQ0UIKg7j4&s=HYce-eGOp33z007rPm2X5TNGaDb6rEQYz0bS3UosSqI&e=> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From:* Julian Vigo <[log in to unmask]> >>> *Sent:* Saturday, May 27, 2017 3:54 PM >>> *To:* Veltman, Andrea - veltmaal >>> *Subject:* open letter >>> >>> Dear Andrea, >>> >>> I am writing to ask if you could sign & share this open letter to >>> protect academic freedom related to the Tuvel affair with consequences far >>> beyond: >>> >>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.ipetitions.com_petition_an-2Dopen-2Dletter-2Don-2Dthe-2Dhy&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=Oo4TCJF8pXcsWPDC7Sy8bdP2IJ6ZbST0v2xdYtuNH80&m=1B4sjE2QNR3rFvHobsEUSerRH8YQy33xAy_z-fIni-8&s=wqmvAqcPcvWJKxDNfGC62-vHjRO_07iKd43BXa21YqY&e= >>> patia-controversy >>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.ipetitions.com_petition_an-2Dopen-2Dletter-2Don-2Dthe-2Dhypatia-2Dcontroversy&d=DwMGaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=D9KtTmOQsn10dtN5dPMs0Q&m=5u-tJCbUBRI5uuQg2RcQWoYD8ONgKhBApUTxxS6d4u8&s=pD1LC8iUB_9BolWVjp5mQO6Efu7JLE3SBBQChsLBQFA&e=> >>> >>> Your collaboration in signing and sharing this on social media, with >>> colleagues and the Listserv would be creating appreciated! 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