I didn't understand the list either! Weird! Thanks, Naomi. I agree with several others on this thread that (even though I started it) a back and forth over email is unlikely to be a wonderful idea, and things will only get more and more meta. The more I read this letter the worse it gets, It's TERFy and ignorant and doing even Tuvel herself no favors. I'm pretty furious it exists. I'll just once more renew my call for people to actually work on these issues and on communicating and listening better. Rebecca On Sun, May 28, 2017 at 4:40 PM, Naomi Scheman <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Just a quick note lest anyone make the mistake I made: the list of names > at the bottom of the open letter are the addressees, not the signers! > > Naomi Scheman > Professor Emerita, Philosophy and Gender, Women, & Sexuality Studies > University of Minnesota > > On May 28, 2017, at 4:31 PM, NOELLE MCAFEE <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > I agree 100 percent with Rebecca. Let's just stop tearing the feminist > philosophy community apart. Enough with letters, petitions, defensiveness, > and attacks. We need to think constructively about editorial practices > going forward. Feminists ought to understand that if a group of colleagues > are deeply offended by something then we all need to take notice and be > honest and charitable and try to appreciate what is going on. This may call > for a conference to sort it out. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 28, 2017, at 10:59 AM, Rebecca Kukla <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > So people are angry about an open letter that they felt attacked a junior > person so they thought the best solution was yet another open letter > attacking what was mostly junior people? This has to stop somewhere. And > this affair has to be allowed to die already. > > I didn't sign the first letter and I am not signing this one either. > > People need to stop trying to settle their academic and political > disagreements via open letters designed to publicly shame by ganging up on > other people. It's not even clear what action item this one is calling for. > (The article is already being published, with only tiny word changes to > bring it in line with current linguistic conventions that avoid slurs, and > the other two items are too vague to be actionable.) > > The issues in this area are super important, so let's actually work on > them, rather than devoting our productive hours to metametametacritiques. > > Rebecca > > On Sun, May 28, 2017 at 10:39 AM, Veltman, Andrea - veltmaal < > [log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> >> Julian Vigo ([log in to unmask]) asked me to forward the following >> message to the FEAST listserv. >> >> >> Best wishes, >> >> >> Andrea >> >> >> ______________________________________ >> >> Dr. Andrea Veltman >> Associate Professor of Philosophy >> Department of Philosophy & Religion >> James Madison University >> MSC 8006 >> Harrisonburg, VA 22807 >> Office phone: 540-568-4236 >> [log in to unmask] >> >> My latest book, *Meaningful Work*, is recently published by Oxford >> University Press: >> >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__global.oup.com_academic_product_meaningful-2Dwork-2D&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HUp8-bkYMlNgd3ZJBxWBKsBsFAFGHrEZg21p9gxugJA&m=8xnmTp09cmrITc7kv889OstP5egCvU6aLIr0ExQaWi8&s=LEAzzp0CEL7V1S_k3v8aOnGgM-1oX1QSNzmWAfJpGrs&e= >> 9780190618179?cc=us&lang=en& >> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__global.oup.com_academic_product_meaningful-2Dwork-2D9780190618179-3Fcc-3Dus-26lang-3Den-26&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HUp8-bkYMlNgd3ZJBxWBKsBsFAFGHrEZg21p9gxugJA&m=LOV-2yxVfBhZ6rrELChk7V70HvBgW6zEshQ0UIKg7j4&s=HYce-eGOp33z007rPm2X5TNGaDb6rEQYz0bS3UosSqI&e=> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Julian Vigo <[log in to unmask]> >> *Sent:* Saturday, May 27, 2017 3:54 PM >> *To:* Veltman, Andrea - veltmaal >> *Subject:* open letter >> >> Dear Andrea, >> >> I am writing to ask if you could sign & share this open letter to protect >> academic freedom related to the Tuvel affair with consequences far beyond: >> >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.ipetitions.com_petition_an-2Dopen-2Dletter-2Don-2Dthe-2D&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HUp8-bkYMlNgd3ZJBxWBKsBsFAFGHrEZg21p9gxugJA&m=8xnmTp09cmrITc7kv889OstP5egCvU6aLIr0ExQaWi8&s=NJ9AXGl8IwIX70ciGgIeMU3jQesBmutLAnfc5Qx-kWg&e= >> hypatia-controversy >> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.ipetitions.com_petition_an-2Dopen-2Dletter-2Don-2Dthe-2Dhypatia-2Dcontroversy&d=DwMGaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=D9KtTmOQsn10dtN5dPMs0Q&m=5u-tJCbUBRI5uuQg2RcQWoYD8ONgKhBApUTxxS6d4u8&s=pD1LC8iUB_9BolWVjp5mQO6Efu7JLE3SBBQChsLBQFA&e=> >> >> Your collaboration in signing and sharing this on social media, with >> colleagues and the Listserv would be creating appreciated! 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