i'm coming to this only after seeing a number of responses. Let's not give these people any more publicity. Ann On Sun, May 28, 2017 at 1:53 PM, Rebecca Kukla <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > The more I am processing this the angrier I am getting. So they are > sending this stupid letter to the provosts and deans of untenured people, > trans and other minority scholars, and grad students who signed - > presumably to get them in trouble? To fuck up their lives? To what end? How > does this even conceivably help the causes that they themselves claim to > champion? What the hell? > > And they are using THIS LIST to try to get feminist scholars to throw > vulnerable people under the bus at their own institutions, quite possibly > without even noticing that that's what they are doing. > > With Naomi's clarification I am now about a thousand times more angry and > disgusted than I was at the start. > > Rebecca > > On Sun, May 28, 2017 at 4:47 PM, Rebecca Kukla <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> I didn't understand the list either! Weird! Thanks, Naomi. >> >> I agree with several others on this thread that (even though I started >> it) a back and forth over email is unlikely to be a wonderful idea, and >> things will only get more and more meta. The more I read this letter the >> worse it gets, It's TERFy and ignorant and doing even Tuvel herself no >> favors. I'm pretty furious it exists. >> >> I'll just once more renew my call for people to actually work on these >> issues and on communicating and listening better. >> >> Rebecca >> >> On Sun, May 28, 2017 at 4:40 PM, Naomi Scheman <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> >>> Just a quick note lest anyone make the mistake I made: the list of names >>> at the bottom of the open letter are the addressees, not the signers! >>> >>> Naomi Scheman >>> Professor Emerita, Philosophy and Gender, Women, & Sexuality Studies >>> University of Minnesota >>> >>> On May 28, 2017, at 4:31 PM, NOELLE MCAFEE <[log in to unmask]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> I agree 100 percent with Rebecca. Let's just stop tearing the feminist >>> philosophy community apart. Enough with letters, petitions, defensiveness, >>> and attacks. We need to think constructively about editorial practices >>> going forward. Feminists ought to understand that if a group of colleagues >>> are deeply offended by something then we all need to take notice and be >>> honest and charitable and try to appreciate what is going on. This may call >>> for a conference to sort it out. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On May 28, 2017, at 10:59 AM, Rebecca Kukla <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>> >>> So people are angry about an open letter that they felt attacked a >>> junior person so they thought the best solution was yet another open letter >>> attacking what was mostly junior people? This has to stop somewhere. And >>> this affair has to be allowed to die already. >>> >>> I didn't sign the first letter and I am not signing this one either. >>> >>> People need to stop trying to settle their academic and political >>> disagreements via open letters designed to publicly shame by ganging up on >>> other people. It's not even clear what action item this one is calling for. >>> (The article is already being published, with only tiny word changes to >>> bring it in line with current linguistic conventions that avoid slurs, and >>> the other two items are too vague to be actionable.) >>> >>> The issues in this area are super important, so let's actually work on >>> them, rather than devoting our productive hours to metametametacritiques. >>> >>> Rebecca >>> >>> On Sun, May 28, 2017 at 10:39 AM, Veltman, Andrea - veltmaal < >>> [log in to unmask]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> >>>> Julian Vigo ([log in to unmask]) asked me to forward the following >>>> message to the FEAST listserv. >>>> >>>> >>>> Best wishes, >>>> >>>> >>>> Andrea >>>> >>>> >>>> ______________________________________ >>>> >>>> Dr. Andrea Veltman >>>> Associate Professor of Philosophy >>>> Department of Philosophy & Religion >>>> James Madison University >>>> MSC 8006 >>>> Harrisonburg, VA 22807 >>>> Office phone: 540-568-4236 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