Sorry, y’all, was reading on my phone. Not sure if this is a hoax, but someone has sure gone to a lot of trouble to dig up information. It is certainly a bizarre tactic and I’m suspicious.
Moving on and hoping for the best,
Julinna
From: Feminist ethics and social theory <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> on behalf of Lynne Tirrell <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
Reply-To: Lynne Tirrell <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
Date: Sunday, May 28, 2017 at 10:40 PM
To: "[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>" <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
Subject: Re: open letter
I am wondering if this is a hoax. Did others look at the signatures? Do you know anyone? Only a few have institutional affiliations, and I don't recognize a single name. I don't know everyone in philosophy, of course, but NONE??
This is meant to scare and waste time and energy. I'm walking away. But thank you to everyone who has posted useful analyses.
(Also, my last note was marked a possible fraud on my own iPad, I'm not sure why.sorry if you got that too. )
Lynne Tirrell
On May 28, 2017, at 10:23 PM, Rebecca Kukla <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
Julianna - Are you sure you provost signed it? They set it up so that the people they are sending it to look like the people who signed it. I think your provost is on there because you signed the original letter and they are trying to rat everyone out to their provosts, because they are rancid pond scum.
Rebecca
On Sun, May 28, 2017 at 10:04 PM, Julinna Oxley <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
Thanks to Rebecca, Camisha, Serene, Ann, and others who I may have missed, for your thoughts. I am in complete agreement with the points you raise.
I am writing with a “heads up” to anyone who signed the letter: take caution. My Provost has signed this letter, which means they did circulate the letter to upper administrators. I have a chair and a dean between me and the provost; the provost is the highest person that I would “directly report” to. I am not sure whether this letter was sent to my Dean. To be clear, I did not agree with everything in the original letter to Hypatia, but agreed with its spirit, and signed on in order to support the people whose work and lives I felt were erased in the Hypatia essay.
I am shocked that:
(a) this matter has been brought to the awareness of my EMPLOYER. The original letter which I signed was addressed to Hypatia, as it was an academic matter. It was not an employment matter. But now my participation in an academic debate has become a subject of my employment. Great.
(b) the letter my employer received framing this debate is completely one-sided, and has the faults that others have identified.
(c) the signatories of this counter-letter do not recognize the irony of their own actions with respect to harm, speech, etc.
I am grateful that I am tenured and have a good working relationship with my Provost (at least I did up until now, I hope he did not receive an email saying, “Julinna Oxley is a witch-hunter, you should step in here”!!). My provost is a Business professor by training and I reported to him when I directed our Women’s and Gender Studies program. During that time he was very supportive and open to learning more about gender and feminism, gave us more lines to grow the program—and in fact, we just hired a full-time director to replace me. I personally am not worried about my employment (though I wonder now what his impressions of me and this whole debacle are), but I am pretty irate that they did this, because it could be really harmful for other people who may have signed.
I will not be writing or signing yet a third letter to circulate to the employers of the signatories of THIS LETTER – but the thought did cross my mind.
In solidarity,
Julinna
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Julinna C. Oxley, Ph.D.
Associate Professor of Philosophy
Coastal Carolina University
Edwards Humanities and Fine Arts #280
133 Chanticleer Drive West
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To: "[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>" <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
Subject: Re: open letter
Speaking as an individual (and not as a representative of Hypatia), I want to agree with the concerns raised Ann, Naomi, Rebecca, and Camisha.
I also want to draw attention to something that Rebecca already started to, but that may not be evident to many readers at first blush: the letter is TERFy. Point 3 is all about how "feelings about gender" are making it impossible to talk about sex. So, though the letter paints itself as a defense of academic freedom, I urge people to take note of what is being said in that section of the letter. As far as I can tell, the letter is trying to create outrage about the idea that trans people are silencing "females" and preventing feminist movements from advancing their interests. And I would hope that most people in the feminist philosophy community would find that proposition false and morally suspect--and that those of us who are cis would consider the interests and perspectives of our trans friends and colleagues as we formulate our individual reactions to the letter.
On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 8:17 AM, Lynne Tirrell <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
I agree with Ann and think Naomi and Rebecca are right on. Thanks especially, Naomi.
Lynne
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On May 28, 2017, at 5:09 PM, Ann Garry <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
i'm coming to this only after seeing a number of responses. Let's not give these people any more publicity. Ann
On Sun, May 28, 2017 at 1:53 PM, Rebecca Kukla <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
The more I am processing this the angrier I am getting. So they are sending this stupid letter to the provosts and deans of untenured people, trans and other minority scholars, and grad students who signed - presumably to get them in trouble? To fuck up their lives? To what end? How does this even conceivably help the causes that they themselves claim to champion? What the hell?
And they are using THIS LIST to try to get feminist scholars to throw vulnerable people under the bus at their own institutions, quite possibly without even noticing that that's what they are doing.
With Naomi's clarification I am now about a thousand times more angry and disgusted than I was at the start.
Rebecca
On Sun, May 28, 2017 at 4:47 PM, Rebecca Kukla <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
I didn't understand the list either! Weird! Thanks, Naomi.
I agree with several others on this thread that (even though I started it) a back and forth over email is unlikely to be a wonderful idea, and things will only get more and more meta. The more I read this letter the worse it gets, It's TERFy and ignorant and doing even Tuvel herself no favors. I'm pretty furious it exists.
I'll just once more renew my call for people to actually work on these issues and on communicating and listening better.
Rebecca
On Sun, May 28, 2017 at 4:40 PM, Naomi Scheman <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
Just a quick note lest anyone make the mistake I made: the list of names at the bottom of the open letter are the addressees, not the signers!
Naomi Scheman
Professor Emerita, Philosophy and Gender, Women, & Sexuality Studies
University of Minnesota
On May 28, 2017, at 4:31 PM, NOELLE MCAFEE <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
I agree 100 percent with Rebecca. Let's just stop tearing the feminist philosophy community apart. Enough with letters, petitions, defensiveness, and attacks. We need to think constructively about editorial practices going forward. Feminists ought to understand that if a group of colleagues are deeply offended by something then we all need to take notice and be honest and charitable and try to appreciate what is going on. This may call for a conference to sort it out.
Sent from my iPhone
On May 28, 2017, at 10:59 AM, Rebecca Kukla <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
So people are angry about an open letter that they felt attacked a junior person so they thought the best solution was yet another open letter attacking what was mostly junior people? This has to stop somewhere. And this affair has to be allowed to die already.
I didn't sign the first letter and I am not signing this one either.
People need to stop trying to settle their academic and political disagreements via open letters designed to publicly shame by ganging up on other people. It's not even clear what action item this one is calling for. (The article is already being published, with only tiny word changes to bring it in line with current linguistic conventions that avoid slurs, and the other two items are too vague to be actionable.)
The issues in this area are super important, so let's actually work on them, rather than devoting our productive hours to metametametacritiques.
Rebecca
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Julian Vigo ([log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>) asked me to forward the following message to the FEAST listserv.
Best wishes,
Andrea
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Dear Andrea,
I am writing to ask if you could sign & share this open letter to protect academic freedom related to the Tuvel affair with consequences far beyond:
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