YES, to what Rebecca says. And on the top of the open letter there's a link to the actual signers: I was a bit relieved to see that the only names that looked familiar were Ted Roosevelt and Adam Smith ; )

Naomi Scheman
Professor Emerita, Philosophy and Gender, Women, & Sexuality Studies
University of Minnesota

On May 28, 2017, at 4:53 PM, Rebecca Kukla <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

The more I am processing this the angrier I am getting. So they are sending this stupid letter to the provosts and deans of untenured people, trans and other minority scholars, and grad students who signed - presumably to get them in trouble? To fuck up their lives? To what end? How does this even conceivably help the causes that they themselves claim to champion? What the hell?

And they are using THIS LIST  to try to get feminist scholars to throw vulnerable people under the bus at their own institutions, quite possibly without even noticing that that's what they are doing.

With Naomi's clarification I am now about a thousand times more angry and disgusted than I was at the start. 

Rebecca

On Sun, May 28, 2017 at 4:47 PM, Rebecca Kukla <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
I didn't understand the list either! Weird! Thanks, Naomi.

I agree with several others on this thread that (even though I started it) a back and forth over email is unlikely to be a wonderful idea, and things will only get more and more meta. The more I read this letter the worse it gets, It's TERFy and ignorant and doing even Tuvel herself no favors. I'm pretty furious it exists.

I'll just once more renew my call for people to actually work on these issues and on communicating and listening better.

Rebecca

On Sun, May 28, 2017 at 4:40 PM, Naomi Scheman <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Just a quick note lest anyone make the mistake I made: the list of names at the bottom of the open letter are the addressees, not the signers!

Naomi Scheman
Professor Emerita, Philosophy and Gender, Women, & Sexuality Studies
University of Minnesota

On May 28, 2017, at 4:31 PM, NOELLE MCAFEE <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

I agree 100 percent with Rebecca. Let's just stop tearing the feminist philosophy community apart. Enough with letters, petitions, defensiveness, and attacks. We need to think constructively about editorial practices going forward. Feminists ought to understand that if a group of colleagues are deeply offended by something then we all need to take notice and be honest and charitable and try to appreciate what is going on. This may call for a conference to sort it out. 

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On May 28, 2017, at 10:59 AM, Rebecca Kukla <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

So people are angry about an open letter that they felt attacked a junior person so they thought the best solution was yet another open letter attacking what was mostly junior people? This has to stop somewhere. And this affair has to be allowed to die already.

I didn't sign the first letter and I am not signing this one either. 

People need to stop trying to settle their academic and political disagreements via open letters designed to publicly shame by ganging up on other people. It's not even clear what action item this one is calling for. (The article is already being published, with only tiny word changes to bring it in line with current linguistic conventions that avoid slurs, and the other two items are too vague to be actionable.)

The issues in this area are super important, so let's actually work on them, rather than devoting our productive hours to metametametacritiques.

Rebecca

On Sun, May 28, 2017 at 10:39 AM, Veltman, Andrea - veltmaal <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Hi all,


Julian Vigo ([log in to unmask]) asked me to forward the following message to the FEAST listserv.


Best wishes,


Andrea


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Dr. Andrea Veltman
Associate Professor of Philosophy
Department of Philosophy & Religion
James Madison University
MSC 8006
Harrisonburg, VA  22807
Office phone: 540-568-4236
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My latest book,
Meaningful Work, is recently published by Oxford University Press:

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From: Julian Vigo <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 3:54 PM
To: Veltman, Andrea - veltmaal
Subject: open letter
 
Dear Andrea,

I am writing to ask if you could sign & share this open letter to protect academic freedom related to the Tuvel affair with consequences far beyond:
 

Your collaboration in signing and sharing this on social media, with colleagues and the Listserv would be creating appreciated!

Warmly,

Julian Vigo




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