I like that connection, Jason. Here is a graphic that does link the three layers of the Freud model to the ToK and corresponds them to Skinner’s three tiers of selection: [cid:image001.png@01D3EDDE.913468D0]m: tree of knowledge system discussion <[log in to unmask]> On Behalf Of nysa71 Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2018 12:39 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Personality Class 2 Gregg and Tokers, As I've been thinking about it, I was wondering if the "life instinct" could be thought of as the "Id" (which I think goes along with what Freud was originally thinking of with the id), and the "death instinct" be the "Sub-Id". The "Sub-Id" could correspond with the "Matter dimension" on the ToK, (i.e., the "non-life" dimension) Super-Ego --- Culture Ego ------------ Mind Id --------------- Life Sub-Id --------- Matter Just having a little fun here. [Emoji] ~ Jason Bessey On Thursday, May 17, 2018, 12:09:05 PM EDT, Henriques, Gregg - henriqgx <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: I sometimes wonder if I don’t have a super id ☺ G From: tree of knowledge system discussion <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> On Behalf Of nysa71 Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2018 8:09 AM To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Personality Class 2 On Freud's Tripartite model of the mind... If there's a Super-Ego, why not a Super-Id? [Emoji] ~ Jason Bessey On Friday, May 11, 2018, 12:16:19 PM EDT, Henriques, Gregg - henriqgx <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: I received several requests for the slides, so I am sharing them here. Attached is class 2. After an intro and overview we watched this 10 minute clip of female British psychoanalysts reflecting on the field. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtxytpdO3JM<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.youtube.com_watch-3Fv-3DdtxytpdO3JM&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=yliNdPRc96Ose1wcm92lwCxyRo_OL316A8FqpGWOkk4&s=o-A266mjp0PmwCakxR3VnIk-uO5v0mw8sg43mp6Vq3M&e=> Then we tried to get clear in separating the baby and the bathwater in Freudian thought (see here: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/theory-knowledge/201401/the-baby-and-the-bathwater-in-freudian-thought<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.psychologytoday.com_us_blog_theory-2Dknowledge_201401_the-2Dbaby-2Dand-2Dthe-2Dbathwater-2Din-2Dfreudian-2Dthought&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=yliNdPRc96Ose1wcm92lwCxyRo_OL316A8FqpGWOkk4&s=N4oP3rEsO4cncaL1oOA1vqnw8HA1eGT-TmHYbOmJNOk&e=>), and corresponded Freud’s conception of consciousness to the ToK/UTUA Framework (see here https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/theory-knowledge/201605/unified-approach-human-consciousness<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.psychologytoday.com_us_blog_theory-2Dknowledge_201605_unified-2Dapproach-2Dhuman-2Dconsciousness&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=yliNdPRc96Ose1wcm92lwCxyRo_OL316A8FqpGWOkk4&s=oqnO_wOeyNcJtHz6jQUirPbTWgV1u394_9rkYzLHboA&e=>) Best, Gregg ############################ To unsubscribe from the TOK-SOCIETY-L list: write to: mailto:[log in to unmask]<mailto:mailto:[log in to unmask]> or click the following link: http://listserv.jmu.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=TOK-SOCIETY-L&A=1 ############################ To unsubscribe from the TOK-SOCIETY-L list: write to: mailto:[log in to unmask]<mailto:mailto:[log in to unmask]> or click the following link: http://listserv.jmu.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=TOK-SOCIETY-L&A=1 ############################ To unsubscribe from the TOK-SOCIETY-L list: write to: mailto:[log in to unmask]<mailto:mailto:[log in to unmask]> or click the following link: http://listserv.jmu.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=TOK-SOCIETY-L&A=1 ############################ To unsubscribe from the TOK-SOCIETY-L list: write to: mailto:[log in to unmask]<mailto:mailto:[log in to unmask]> or click the following link: http://listserv.jmu.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=TOK-SOCIETY-L&A=1 ############################ To unsubscribe from the TOK-SOCIETY-L list: write to: mailto:[log in to unmask] or click the following link: http://listserv.jmu.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=TOK-SOCIETY-L&A=1