Blaine: Very impressive CV -- thanks . . . !! Yes -- let's open up a dialogue about Aristotle (off the list?) and see where it takes us . . . <g> Mark Quoting "Fowers, Blaine J" <[log in to unmask]>: > Hi Mark, > > I'm delighted to hear that you and the folks with whom you work are > looking into what Aristotle can tell us about psychology. That has > been the focus of my work for the last 20 years. Unfortunately, > psychologists interested in Aristotle have tended be be rather > siloed. For that reason, I'm attaching my CV as a quick reference to > works that are likely to be of interest to you. We should talk more, > whether on the listserv or backchannel. > > > All the best, > > Blaine > > > Blaine J. Fowers, Ph.D. > Professor > Department of Educational and > Psychological Studies > Merrick 312 > 5202 University Dr. > Coral Gables, FL 33146 > 305-284-5261 (o) > 305-284-3003 (f) > > Frailty, Suffering, and Vice: Flourishing in the Face of Human > Limitations<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.apa.org_pubs_books_4317447.aspx&d=DwIFAw&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=dtcOntgXecWxI3Jwp89liqPTCpxVVAGwCj_kJ9ZN2jk&s=ljm43igow1_5yyaZSXMy_RkMnsKFtD0BAQrvp_ZqNRU&e=> > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.palgrave.com_page_results_-3FSTEM-3Dtrue-26SF1-3Dkword-5Findex-252Cidentifier-26SORT-3Dmat-5Frank-5Fus-252Fd-26SF99-3Dlang-5Ftoggle-26ST99-3Dus-26ST1-3Dthe-2Bevolution-2Bof-2Bethics&d=DwIFAw&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=dtcOntgXecWxI3Jwp89liqPTCpxVVAGwCj_kJ9ZN2jk&s=g5YVNfcgC7zCqDQY9QW_NZekskpd_4x3bFjQhUpz3Cw&e=> > > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.palgrave.com_page_results_-3FSTEM-3Dtrue-26SF1-3Dkword-5Findex-252Cidentifier-26SORT-3Dmat-5Frank-5Fus-252Fd-26SF99-3Dlang-5Ftoggle-26ST99-3Dus-26ST1-3Dthe-2Bevolution-2Bof-2Bethics&d=DwIFAw&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=dtcOntgXecWxI3Jwp89liqPTCpxVVAGwCj_kJ9ZN2jk&s=g5YVNfcgC7zCqDQY9QW_NZekskpd_4x3bFjQhUpz3Cw&e=>The Evolution of > Ethics<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.palgrave.com_us_book_9781137344656-23otherversion-3D9781349466139&d=DwIFAw&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=dtcOntgXecWxI3Jwp89liqPTCpxVVAGwCj_kJ9ZN2jk&s=NhRujA976gRPQJ47b1SNAD9MHh-fU1REThpWZBgu6hg&e=> > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__blainefowers.com&d=DwIFAw&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=dtcOntgXecWxI3Jwp89liqPTCpxVVAGwCj_kJ9ZN2jk&s=gs8rlaKLuG0WenjlRA_2LalbEgJ6-cuO1MRHUlwfixI&e= > > > ________________________________ > From: tree of knowledge system discussion > <[log in to unmask]> on behalf of Mark Stahlman > <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2018 11:31 AM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: William James: The TOK Miniseries > > Jason: > > Yes -- the premise of Kuhn's "paradigms" is that different times > generate different "sciences" (without suggesting any *cause* for all > this.) > > What we've added to that is the "formal causality" due to *technology* > "shaping our behaviors and attitudes" (important that this is > *neither* "deterministic." or "probabilistic.") > > The result is a "psycho-technological environment," to which humans > characteristically "conform" (and where a "non-conformist" is still > working on the same issues) -- while noting that each individual does > this with more-or-less success, due to all the factors that make up > their lives. > > Accordingly, people tend to "cluster" in their concerns and > activities. What William James was dealing with was, in some ways, > the "same" as what his contemporaries -- such as Freud, Jung, > Nietzsche, Darwin &al -- were dealing with. At the same time, they > will tend to act as-if they were all in the room with the same > "elephant," while grabbing a hold of different parts of its anatomy. > > These people all lived in what we'd call the ELECTRIC paradigm (i.e. > c. 1850-2000) -- so, to the extent possible, it could be useful to > compare/contrast them based on the cultural *effects* they shared in > common. But, to be sure, that wasn't the "beginning" of Psychology -- > which also existed, with different concerns, in earlier paradigms. > > At the Center, we're studying Aristotole -- specifically in an attempt > to get as far away as possible from these modern technological > influences. He is, by many accounts, the "original" *psychologist*, > so his work appears today as fresh and instructive (to us, at least). > > Ultimately, the question is what will happen to Psychology under > DIGITAL conditions and we suspect that Aristotle will help us to > figure that out . . . !! > > Mark > > Quoting nysa71 <[log in to unmask]>: > >> Steve, Mark, et.al., >> >> It occurs to me that Mark's two questions about William James could >> be asked about the founders of modern psychology in general: >> >> 1) Who were the founders of psychology? What were *their* own >> "psychologies" and how were >> they "formed"? >> >> 2) Who were the founders of psychology "arguing" with, and what were >> they trying to accomplish >> -- in the context of their times? >> >> Perhaps any attempt to unify psychology in the here-in-now requires >> us to go back to the very beginning of psychology itself and pose >> questions such as these --- generally speaking, what was the whole >> point of establishing psychology in the first place? >> >> ~ Jason On Tuesday, July 17, 2018, 2:06:48 AM EDT, Chance >> McDermott <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> >> Hi Steve, >> It was energizing to read James ask the following questions: >> "For why should this absolute god-given Faculty retain somuch better >> the events of yesterday than those of lastyear, and, best of all, >> those of an hour ago? Why, again, inold age should its grasp of >> childhood's events seemfirmest? Why should illness and exhaustion >> enfeeble it?Why should repeating an experience strengthen >> ourrecollection of it? Why should drugs, fevers, asphyxia, >> andexcitement resuscitate things long since forgotten?" >> >> And it made me feel as though students of psychology would benefit >> from a thorough look at James rather than simply memorize him as The >> Father of American Psychology. I am excited to see more of the >> review and hope to return to a deeper appreciation of the source >> material when time permits. >> Against the back-drop of our American struggle with meaning and >> well-being, I was also struck by an awareness of so much social and >> mental effort going in to this effort of self-recognition and >> verification of reality with others. I recall that James himself >> led a life burdened by depression and health concerns, and (here is >> my usual refrain) that he reported hikes into nature to be curative. >> Thank you for sharing your course, >> -Chance >> On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 5:49 PM, Steven Quackenbush >> <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> >> Hi Mark, >> Thank you very much for the insights and links. My list of guiding >> questions is evolving, and the issues you raise are encouraging me >> to reconsider what I'm after as I study the text. I agree that it >> is especially important to consider the question: "who was James >> 'arguing' with and what was he trying to accomplish -- in the >> context of his times?" >> I also look forward to studying the work of Pierce and other >> contemporaries of William James. I'd like our students to come away >> from the class with an understanding of (a) the psychology of >> William James in its historical context, as well as (b) how James >> might speak to the issues psychologists are grappling with in 2018. >> More to come... >> ~ Steve Q. >> On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 2:25 PM, Mark Stahlman >> <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> >> Steve: >> >> I'm no expert on James but I know a bit about his "times," so if I >> were tackling this, some of the questions I'd ask might include -- >> >> 1) Who was William James? What was *his* own "psychology" and how >> was it "formed"? >> >> 2) Who was James "arguing" with and what was he trying to accomplish >> -- in the context of his times? >> >> One of his contemporaries who I do know something about is Charles >> Pierce. Many lump them together as "pragmatists" but, in fact, >> Pierce quite deliberately separated himself and called his approach >> "pragmaticist" so that no one would confuse the two (no, it didn't >> work). >> >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Furldefense.proofpoint.com-252Fv2-252Furl-253Fu-253Dhttps-2D3A-5F-5Furldefense.proofpoint-2526d-253DDwIFaQ-2526c-253DeLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn-5F5nBEmmeq0-2526r-253DHPo1IXYDhKClogP-2DUOpybo6Cfxxz-2DjIYBgjO2gOz4-2DA-2526m-253DLSmhNOrL7THh05ZcZNiPmccLwtAXPGmJ0HsZ3sI1zYg-2526s-253D9CsaGYX1dInSfS8UROayX78SdO1-2Dh6Mli9LvD6KWmJA-2526e-26amp-3Bdata-3D02-257C01-257Cbfowers-2540MIAMI.EDU-257Ca9c433ea540f437ca08308d5ecc4511a-257C2a144b72f23942d48c0e6f0f17c48e33-257C0-257C0-257C636675250287088712-26amp-3Bsdata-3Dr7otnM4wiagIXXZw86GQCwgnCq8F36unVgb6U8tEhmw-253D-26amp-3Breserved-3D0-3D&d=DwIFAw&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=dtcOntgXecWxI3Jwp89liqPTCpxVVAGwCj_kJ9ZN2jk&s=Ctbz70ljaDk61WhW-fPzxxBoS0cfljPGLNxHsW8xJts&e=. com/v2/url?u=https-3A__en.wiki pedia.org_wiki_Charles-5FSande rs-5FPeirce&d=DwIBaQ&c=eLbWYnp nzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nB Emmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpyb o6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=TwZMV pxpDzN4iLckzX6jg6pnl17lXUbIh4i >> _U-Hbyhw&s=XoFR9U7N_21x4b6sQ9_ >> hYNPH79DegVxmUqoMJ3B2kFY&e= >> >> Btw, my study of Pierce is largely through John Deely, the recently >> deceased semiotician. Deely's only PhD student, Brian Kemple is a >> Fellow at my Center. >> >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Furldefense.proofpoint.com-252Fv2-252Furl-253Fu-253Dhttps-2D3A-5F-5Furldefense.proofpoint-2526d-253DDwIFaQ-2526c-253DeLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn-5F5nBEmmeq0-2526r-253DHPo1IXYDhKClogP-2DUOpybo6Cfxxz-2DjIYBgjO2gOz4-2DA-2526m-253DLSmhNOrL7THh05ZcZNiPmccLwtAXPGmJ0HsZ3sI1zYg-2526s-253D9CsaGYX1dInSfS8UROayX78SdO1-2Dh6Mli9LvD6KWmJA-2526e-26amp-3Bdata-3D02-257C01-257Cbfowers-2540MIAMI.EDU-257Ca9c433ea540f437ca08308d5ecc4511a-257C2a144b72f23942d48c0e6f0f17c48e33-257C0-257C0-257C636675250287088712-26amp-3Bsdata-3Dr7otnM4wiagIXXZw86GQCwgnCq8F36unVgb6U8tEhmw-253D-26amp-3Breserved-3D0-3D&d=DwIFAw&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=dtcOntgXecWxI3Jwp89liqPTCpxVVAGwCj_kJ9ZN2jk&s=Ctbz70ljaDk61WhW-fPzxxBoS0cfljPGLNxHsW8xJts&e=. com/v2/url?u=https-3A__en.wiki pedia.org_wiki_John-5FDeely&d= DwIBaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4 uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1I XYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgj O2gOz4-A&m=TwZMVpxpDzN4iLckzX6 jg6pnl17lXUbIh4i_U-Hbyhw&s=1Ku >> WXV54ASrno6ufdQNNGiPMpP7e86ytB >> 7U-nFjECHw&e= >> >> The James text that I've spent some time with is 1901-02 "The >> Varieties of Religious Experience: A Study in Human Nature," which >> -- as was common at a time when *seances* were typical upper-class >> Saturday night entertainment, Psychic Societies were being formed >> (James co-founded the ASPR in 1884) and the Theosophical Society >> (founded in NYC in 1875) was capturing many people's imagination -- >> would seem to be relevant to how James treats "Psychology" (or >> perhaps not). >> >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Furldefense.proofpoint.com-252Fv2-252Furl-253Fu-253Dhttps-2D3A-5F-5Furldefense.proofpoint-2526d-253DDwIFaQ-2526c-253DeLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn-5F5nBEmmeq0-2526r-253DHPo1IXYDhKClogP-2DUOpybo6Cfxxz-2DjIYBgjO2gOz4-2DA-2526m-253DLSmhNOrL7THh05ZcZNiPmccLwtAXPGmJ0HsZ3sI1zYg-2526s-253D9CsaGYX1dInSfS8UROayX78SdO1-2Dh6Mli9LvD6KWmJA-2526e-26amp-3Bdata-3D02-257C01-257Cbfowers-2540MIAMI.EDU-257Ca9c433ea540f437ca08308d5ecc4511a-257C2a144b72f23942d48c0e6f0f17c48e33-257C0-257C0-257C636675250287088712-26amp-3Bsdata-3Dr7otnM4wiagIXXZw86GQCwgnCq8F36unVgb6U8tEhmw-253D-26amp-3Breserved-3D0-3D&d=DwIFAw&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=dtcOntgXecWxI3Jwp89liqPTCpxVVAGwCj_kJ9ZN2jk&s=Ctbz70ljaDk61WhW-fPzxxBoS0cfljPGLNxHsW8xJts&e=. com/v2/url?u=https-3A__en.wiki pedia.org_wiki_American-5FSoci ety-5Ffor-5FPsychical-5FResear ch&d=DwIBaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb 7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r= HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-j IYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=TwZMVpxpDzN4iL ckzX6jg6pnl17lXUbIh4i_U-Hbyhw& >> s=KxKqr-lMEIr5Mr1h3SdaNqW_-GuT >> zAUCCiBWjFxjg5Q&e= >> >> I recently visited the Edison Laboratory in nearby West Orange and >> confirmed with the experts there that Thomas Edison was *deeply* >> committed to "talking with dead people" (as was Alex. Graham Bell >> &al). Electricity had many definite influences on the behaviors of >> the time. >> >> So, for James, the "psychology" of his times included ectoplasm and >> tapping spirits. My guess is that this could be important for your >> own study of his work . . . !! >> >> Mark >> >> P.S. The best account of the "occult" developments in those times is >> probably the two-volume "Occult Underground" and "Occult >> Establishment" (i.e. James' own career) by James Webb (alas, now >> expensive but I think there are scans out there). >> >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Furldefense.proofpoint.com-252Fv2-252Furl-253Fu-253Dhttps-2D3A-5F-5Furldefense.proofpoint-2526d-253DDwIFaQ-2526c-253DeLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn-5F5nBEmmeq0-2526r-253DHPo1IXYDhKClogP-2DUOpybo6Cfxxz-2DjIYBgjO2gOz4-2DA-2526m-253DLSmhNOrL7THh05ZcZNiPmccLwtAXPGmJ0HsZ3sI1zYg-2526s-253D9CsaGYX1dInSfS8UROayX78SdO1-2Dh6Mli9LvD6KWmJA-2526e-26amp-3Bdata-3D02-257C01-257Cbfowers-2540MIAMI.EDU-257Ca9c433ea540f437ca08308d5ecc4511a-257C2a144b72f23942d48c0e6f0f17c48e33-257C0-257C0-257C636675250287088712-26amp-3Bsdata-3Dr7otnM4wiagIXXZw86GQCwgnCq8F36unVgb6U8tEhmw-253D-26amp-3Breserved-3D0-3D&d=DwIFAw&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=dtcOntgXecWxI3Jwp89liqPTCpxVVAGwCj_kJ9ZN2jk&s=Ctbz70ljaDk61WhW-fPzxxBoS0cfljPGLNxHsW8xJts&e=. com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.ama zon.com_Occult-2DEstablishment -2DJames-2DWebb_dp_0875484344& d=DwIBaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vC I4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo 1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYB gjO2gOz4-A&m=TwZMVpxpDzN4iLckz X6jg6pnl17lXUbIh4i_U-Hbyhw&s=B >> 9FoZBUdcHzDetBOCD36ft_5fjUmDI_ >> k8zrF36zsWSQ&e= >> >> Quoting Steven Quackenbush <[log in to unmask]> : >> >> >> Dear ToK community, >> >> As mentioned in a previous post, I am co-teaching a course this fall >> (entitled *Philosophical Psychology*) in which we have adopted >> William James' >> (1890) *Principles of Psychology* as our chief text. In preparation, I am >> working my way through the entire book this summer. This reading project >> is guided by three questions: >> >> 1) *How does James conceive the discipline of psychology? * >> >> 2) In a NYT article (that Gregg forwarded to members of this listserv), >> David Brooks included William James on his list of "personalists." If >> personalism "is a philosophic tendency built on the infinite uniqueness and >> depth of each person" (Brooks), *in what respect(s) does The Principles of >> Psychology offer a personalistic account of the human organism?* >> >> 3) *Is there an ethics implicit in Principles of Psychology? * [If so, how >> might it be characterized?] >> >> >> Chapter 1 of *The Principles of Psychology *offers a sketch of James' >> conception of psychology as a scholarly discipline. I consider this >> chapter to be a self-standing document (even as I imagine that subsequence >> sections of the text will enrich his opening reflections). My outline of >> this introductory material is included in the attachment entitled >> "Principles of Psychology Chapter 1" >> >> My approach to studying the remainder of the text will not take the form of >> a page-by-page outline. Rather, what I'm trying to do is identify the >> conceptual "seeds" that seem most likely to bear fruit (in light of the >> concerns guiding my reading). The second attachment (labelled "An >> Exploration of James' Principles of Psychology") represents my attempt to >> highlight those aspects of James' discussion *in chapters 2-8* that seem >> most relevant to the questions posed above. This document does not presume >> familiarity with* The Principles of Psychology. * I make heavy use of >> quotations from James' text and I try to clarify passages that strike me as >> obscure (yet important). Participants on this listserv might be >> especially interested in (a) James' distinction between *knowledge of >> acquaintance* and *knowledge-about *(p. 2), and (b) the discussion >> of *sources >> of error* in psychology, including (1) the misleading influence of language >> (p. 3), and the so-called Psychologist's Fallacy (pp. 3-6). >> >> Please note that this is a work in progress (subject to revision based on >> feedback from others and my continued study of the text). >> >> My reading schedule for the remainder of the summer is as follows: >> >> - July 24: Chapters 9-16 >> - August 7: Chapters 17-22 >> - August 21: Chapters 23-28 >> >> I welcome your input on the attached notes (or any other aspect of this >> project). >> >> ~ Steve Q >> >> P.S., The complete text of *The Principles of Psychology* is available >> online here: >> 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