Waldemar, sure......they are negentropy (negative entropy= free energy),
chemiosmosis (first source of bioenergetics(Peter Mitchell (1961)), and
homeostasis.....

On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 10:18 AM, [log in to unmask] <
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> John:
>
> I wonder if you might enumerate the “first principles of physiology” to
> which you refer?
>
> Best regards,
>
> Waldemar
>
> *Waldemar A Schmidt, PhD, MD*
> (Perseveret et Percipiunt)
> 503.631.8044
>
> *Strive not to be a success, but rather to be of value.* (A Einstein)
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jul 17, 2018, at 6:27 AM, JOHN TORDAY <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> Dear Joe and ToKers, I wanted to thank Joe for trying to understand my
> perspective, largely because it is representative of what I think Gregg is
> attempting to achieve....not Joe and me per se, but all of us who have
> identified with the ToK as a 'big tent'. My science has brought me to a
> certain level of understanding independent of any 'goal', which I think is
> significant in not being teleologic or tautologic. Much like how Mendeleev
> stumbled on to a way of organizing the chemical elements in a way that was
> predictive using atomic number, I have found that cell-cell signaling has a
> similar set of properties for biology. And in my analysis, the fact that
> the Pauli Exclusion Principle accounts for both the physical and biologic,
> suggesting that both the physical and biologic have their origins in the
> same point source, the Singularity/Big Bang, would seem to provide 'proof
> of principle'. I have tried to merge my body of knowledge with Gregg's by
> suggesting that his 'joints' are the mechanism that I am talking about,
> allowing for insights to the ToK well beyond the description of a
> hierarchy, but the validity and utility of that perspective remains to be
> seen. Like the Periodic Table of Elements, predicting far more than the
> original 60 some odd Elements, the ToK will make predictions far beyond our
> current state of knowledge once we connect the mechanistic dots. I hope
> this was helpful, as always.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 3:29 AM, Joseph Michalski <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Mark. Salient points, one and all. I'm not being at all original
>> here in arguing that the digital/online revolution (and consistent with
>> your broader thesis about technology as a driver) is the single most
>> important cultural, evolutionary change since industrialization. I believe,
>> in fact, that it's the most important "revolution" since we learned to
>> develop syntactical language. Since we are cultural beings and justifying
>> animals, the fundamental shift -- in which I'm directly participating at
>> this very moment! -- involves the explosive production and use of
>> information that's shared instantaneously & unfiltered. The students
>> outside our academic dean's office and student advising, without exception,
>> routinely spend all of their spare time on their portable devices. I
>> casually studied a small town where we were driving through and noticed
>> that among the pedestrians, literally every single person had a device up
>> to one's ear or with their eyes cast down in front of them. Same thing on
>> the subway in London, England last week.
>>
>> Just as significant, and where we reconnect with biology and psychology,
>> the research I'm reading directly implicates this tech/cultural shift in
>> actual neurological changes in the brain. We are rewiring ourselves. This
>> is where I can't help but think that John's basic thesis has some validity,
>> especially in terms of the epigenetic and behavioral expressions in our
>> environments that directly affect how human beings process and share
>> information. I'm afraid I just don't have any grand model yet in mind that
>> shows exactly how all of this works. But I can tell everyone here on this
>> list with the highest confidence that I'm seeing a geometric expansion of
>> stress, anxiety, depression, and mental health issues in the last few years
>> among our students that happens to coincide with the fact that children
>> introduced to iphones a decade earlier (I'm obviously oversimplifying) are
>> entering universities. The number of medical accommodations at my
>> university went from 200 in 2016-17 (our highest ever) to 1,200 (yes, a
>> six-fold increase) in 2017-18. I had one student the year previously come
>> to me in the last month of school asking to withdraw, but 8 students making
>> that request this past April (in effect, losing the credits/academic value
>> of the entire year). It's a cultural tsunami. Everyone I know in higher
>> education is dealing with these problems, including my alma mater at the
>> University of Virginia. A colleague of Gregg's did a clinical placement
>> there, where she learned that 51% -- an actual majority -- of first-year
>> students indicated that they needed or would benefit from mental health
>> counseling. Hence I'm looking at this list as a means of both delving into
>> the big questions AND hopefully helping us all to deal with the immediate
>> problems like the mental health crisis we're seeing among young people
>> attending our universities.
>>
>> Yours kindly, -Joe
>>
>> Dr. Joseph H. Michalski
>>
>> Associate Academic Dean
>>
>> King’s University College at Western University
>>
>> 266 Epworth Avenue
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__maps.google.com_-3Fq-3D266-2BEpworth-2BAvenue-2B-250D-250A-2BLondon-2C-2BOntario-2C-2BCanada-2B-2BN6A-2B2M3-26entry-3Dgmail-26source-3Dg&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=f2v07aQ2ZtMUo9E4E2S4ErjJoifk42domnj6D9fFRZA&s=ld0Fp_RpEbwlacsIucj_tWyu5hlqaZ98sAI3NJxrL-0&e=>
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>> London, Ontario, Canada
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>> Tel: (519) 433-3491, ext. 4439
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>> *From:* tree of knowledge system discussion <
>> [log in to unmask]> on behalf of Mark Stahlman <
>> [log in to unmask]>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 17, 2018 6:03 AM
>>
>> *To:* [log in to unmask]
>> *Subject:* Re: Interesting Parallel Discovery
>>
>> Joe:
>>
>> I hear you!  Marshall McLuhan converted to Catholicism in 1937 (at the
>> age of 25), moving into what was then called the "Catholic
>> Renaissance" in the Anglophonic world -- spearheaded by those like
>> G.K. Chesterton and Hiliare Belloc (or "Chesterbelloc" as G.B.S. Shaw
>> called them.)  Of his six children, only the oldest, Eric, kept his
>> faith (and of his four children, none have.)  This is the result of a
>> series of paradigm-shifts -- with profound effects on our *perception*
>> (not "sensation," as correctly separated by Gregg), which is the
>> psychological faculty that underlies the impact of "symbols."
>>
>> In the midst of all this massive technological change, Max Weber (of
>> "cultural determinism" fame), suggested, in his 1917 "Science as a
>> Vocation" lecture in Munich, that the world had become "disenchanted"
>> and, even though the Churches remained, all that was left were our
>> "personal daemons."  He didn't know it but he was talking about the
>> effects of ELECTRICITY (beginning in the mid-1800s.)
>>
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__en.wiki
>> pedia.org_wiki_Science-5Fas-5Fa-5FVocation&d=DwIDaQ&c=eLbW
>> YnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-
>> UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=SrpTddpRjUzo69haLeousX7Z8pFaqI
>> Os7rUigbeqy88&s=FJRqVR5ShDza30DV9fLt7e2XxG1ipma68i1PxkSJ6ho&e=
>>
>> This translated into the sweeping urge for "mysticism" (and
>> hallucinogenic drugs &c), or what philosophy calls "phenomenology"
>> (and "existentialism" &c.)  The Catholic Church was also caught up in
>> all this, supporting a Jesuit examination of the "psychology of the
>> mystics" in Louvain (yes, also the task William James was engaged in,
>> as was Carl Jung), along with the theological expression of
>> "personalism."  This trend is what drove Vatican II, as well as the
>> naming of a series of mystics as "Doctors of the Church" and,
>> ultimately, making the Mass quite irrelevant to your children (among
>> many others.)
>>
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.ama
>> zon.com_Psychology-2DMystics-2DDover-2DWestern-2DPhilosophy
>> _dp_0486436942&d=DwIDaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_
>> 5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=
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>> dNZswmWhfP51YdQZ9vThMdOjYVjP0&e=
>>
>> Who needs it when you can just pop an "entheogen" . . . ??
>>
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__en.wiki
>> pedia.org_wiki_Entheogen&d=DwIDaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4
>> uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgj
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>> vtwRmY8TqOk5xINjtsRAS539uoQSRVHLhk52XWlE&e=
>>
>> But that was then and this is now.  The question is what will the
>> *current* paradigm-shift -- from fantasy-inspiring TELEVISION to
>> memory-inducing DIGITAL -- bring to us (i.e. how will it compel us to
>> "evolve")?  Yes, "evolution" (in this case technological evolution,
>> which is the basic driver of change in human "behaviors and attitudes"
>> that most ignore), marches on.  That's what I'm spending my time here
>> trying to help us all sort-out . . . <g>
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> P.S. This Friday, Brian Kemple (a Center Fellow and John Deely's
>> semiotics PhD), will be presenting a paper at the ALI World Congress
>> in Huntington, LI.  It is titled "Mediated Disclosures: Human Persons
>> and Their Technological Environments."  Btw, my presentation will be
>> called "Alchemy and the Robots."
>>
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.aqui
>> nasschoolofleadership.com_events&d=DwIDaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb
>> 7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-j
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>> s=Y1wCNIEi0kGlAAY2MrIMQ9_bp5si97Nke4CPcoITYRM&e=
>>
>> P.P.S. Thanks for the heads up on Eva Jablonka's "Evolution in Four
>> Dimensions."  Interestingly, she says "And everyone will readily agree
>> that our symbol-based culture is changing through time: we only have
>> to think of what has happened to technology during the last hundred
>> years to be convinced." (p. 190)  However, treating this as "symbol
>> systems," while academically acceptable, is putting the cart before
>> the horse, in *causal* terms.
>>
>> Alas, McLuhan does not appear in the book and, as best I can tell, no
>> one else dealing with "technological evolution" and its effects on
>> humans does either (plus "semiotics" is only mentioned once and T.
>> Sebeok is the only semiotician referenced).  After all, these are
>> biologists and perhaps the editors at MIT have forgotten about Leo
>> Marx and his 1994 "Does Technology Drive History?" . . . !!
>>
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.ama
>> zon.com_Technology-2DHistory-2DDilemma-2DTechnological-
>> 2DDeterminism_dp_0262691671&d=DwIDaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4
>> uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgj
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>> VQVCOPLP5L_BcFxkBDu99qj9lT0ImhUhkhNqfrNNxog&e=
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Quoting Joseph Michalski <[log in to unmask]>:
>>
>> > Hi folks. Second email, mainly in response to John's comments and
>> > references. A bit lengthier, so feel free to ignore if this isn't of
>> > interest. I'm still learning and processing John's perspective, so
>> > forgive me if my response seems a bit facile. While I'm not (yet)
>> > convinced that Mind and Culture can be "reduced" to John's
>> > biological explanatory approach and modification of Darwin --
>> > especially as a recovering "cultural determinist"(!) -- I'm
>> > impressed with the arguments John has advanced and some of the
>> > research I've been reviewing. Regardless of where any of us land on
>> > these issues, I think it's extremely helpful to be challenged in our
>> > thinking.
>> >
>> >
>> > The salient point I want to make here is that I'm seeing now the
>> > relevance of what John's arguing about epigenetic phenomena and even
>> > the behavioral manifestations that can be transmitted
>> > inter-generationally, but not through standard genetic
>> > interpretations obviously. There are several innate characteristics
>> > of species that are transmitted genetically, but even there we have
>> > evidence of environmental influences. How that information gets
>> > translated back to the source (biologically speaking) certainly
>> > deserves to be examined far more seriously and extensively. I'm
>> > looking at Jablonka's work on this too, and have a fascinating book
>> > I've been perusing entitled Evolution in Four Dimensions: Genetic,
>> > Epigenetic, Behavioral, and Symbolic Variation in the History of
>> > Life. Despite the human genome project and the aspirations, I think
>> > we  understand better than ever that it's not simply a matter of
>> > encoded genes passing on discrete, hard-wired information that then
>> > produces behavioral expression. It's far more complicated, with
>> > interactive elements and environmental feedback mechanisms at the
>> > very least among non-human species. It gets even more complicated
>> > with more advanced species like primates and then even further with
>> > the cultural species Homo sapiens sapiens.
>> >
>> >
>> > In short, with respect to humans, while both genes and culture can
>> > transmit latent information, the symbolic systems that humans use
>> > are far more flexible and, er, "adaptive," than genetic systems. Yet
>> > I appreciate too the implications of culture & physical envt as
>> > having direct links to biological phenomena and perhaps even to
>> > John's argument about cell-cell communication. My struggle remains
>> > that in light of both the vastness and mutability of symbolic
>> > systems, there's no obvious or even necessary transmission of fixed
>> > ideas, habits, or patterns that will be passed down automatically
>> > from one generation to the next. The Catholicism in my family, for
>> > example, which lasted for several generations, effectively has ended
>> > with me (in fact, while respectful of their dad shuffling off to
>> > mass on the occasional Sunday, our five adult boys have zero
>> > interest in attending!). And while my wife adamantly opposes tattoos
>> > for both religious and aesthetic reasons, that hasn't stopped four
>> > of the five boys from getting them. How this ultimately has a
>> > genetic basis, however, goes well beyond my aging brain. But I'm
>> > trying! For me, though, that's where the justification hypothesis
>> > and the J-I-I dynamic helps me understand behavioral variation in
>> > credible, testable ways -- even if I remain unclear on how these
>> > cultural phenomena relate to John's paradigm. Yet perhaps we will be
>> > able to come up with an ever-more integrated theory of complexity
>> > that allows us to map these multiple levels onto one another and
>> > concretely measure the feedback measures of mutual influence (and
>> > here I'm thinking of John's lovely comment about his experience
>> > while driving back from the beach last week!). As a mathematician
>> > friend of mine commented when I was sharing some of what we're doing
>> > commented: "Joe, I'm not sure how we could ever subject all of this
>> > to Monte Carlo simulations!" Yet, to his credit, we're going to keep
>> > trying! We still need a better model though, so that's one of the
>> > grand objectives I hope we'll all keep working on here. Respectfully
>> > yours, -Joe
>> >
>> >
>> > Dr. Joseph H. Michalski
>> >
>> > Associate Academic Dean
>> >
>> > King’s University College at Western University
>> >
>> > 266 Epworth Avenue
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__maps.google.com_-3Fq-3D266-2BEpworth-2BAvenue-2B-250D-250A-2B-250D-250A-2BLondon-2C-2BOntario-2C-2BCanada-2BN6A-2B2M3-26entry-3Dgmail-26source-3Dg&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=f2v07aQ2ZtMUo9E4E2S4ErjJoifk42domnj6D9fFRZA&s=mY8jPuGmDl2qhetsfXbGz31teIcqqrICc7Hl8rM_kJY&e=>
>> >
>> > London, Ontario, Canada
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__maps.google.com_-3Fq-3D266-2BEpworth-2BAvenue-2B-250D-250A-2B-250D-250A-2BLondon-2C-2BOntario-2C-2BCanada-2BN6A-2B2M3-26entry-3Dgmail-26source-3Dg&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=f2v07aQ2ZtMUo9E4E2S4ErjJoifk42domnj6D9fFRZA&s=mY8jPuGmDl2qhetsfXbGz31teIcqqrICc7Hl8rM_kJY&e=>
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>> >
>> > Tel: (519) 433-3491, ext. 4439F
>> >
>> > Fax: (519) 433-0353
>> >
>> > Email: [log in to unmask]
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>> > ______________________
>> > eiπ + 1 = 0
>> >
>> > ________________________________
>> > From: tree of knowledge system discussion
>> > <[log in to unmask]> on behalf of JOHN TORDAY
>> > <[log in to unmask]>
>> > Sent: Monday, July 16, 2018 4:56:18 PM
>> > To: [log in to unmask]
>> > Subject: Re: Interesting Parallel Discovery
>> >
>> > Joe, see Jablonka E, Lamb MJ, Lachmann M (September 1992).
>> > "Evidence, mechanisms and models for the inheritance of acquired
>> > characteristics". J. Theor.
>> > Biol.<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__
>> en.wikipedia.org_wiki_J.-5FTheor.-5FBiol.&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnp
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>> (2):
>> > 245–268.
>> >
>> > On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 12:57 PM,
>> > [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>> > <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>> > John:
>> >
>> > Thank you for your reply/response. I understand the Storr article
>> > and thank you for providing that link.  I remain (so far) skekptical
>> > that epigenetic “marking” is a permanent feature hereditarily.
>> >
>> > Best regards,
>> >
>> > Waldemar
>> >
>> > Waldemar A Schmidt, PhD, MD
>> > (Perseveret et Percipiunt)
>> > 503.631.8044
>> >
>> > Strive not to be a success, but rather to be of value. (A Einstein)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Jul 16, 2018, at 10:18 AM, JOHN TORDAY
>> > <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Waldemar, thanks for the correction regarding workers and drones. As
>> > for the persistence of epigenetic inheritance, if the perturbation
>> > persists the trait will also persist. And it can become
>> > a true DNA mutation under physiologic stress if the insult persists
>> > based on the effect of Radical Oxygen Species on gene mutations
>> > (Storr, S.J., C.M. Woolston, Y. Zhang, and S.G. Martin.  2013. Redox
>> > environment, free radical, and oxidative DNA damage. Antioxid Redox
>> > Signal    18:2399–23408). It's also referred to as the  Baldwin
>> > Effect. John
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 9:31 AM, Waldemar Schmidt
>> > <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>> > John:
>> >
>> > A minor correction, if you will.
>> > Honey bee drones are not sterile and don’t collect nectar and pollen.
>> > That task is performed by the “worker” bees - who, presumably,
>> > collect the environmental conditions leading to epigenetic changes.
>> > Epigenetic influence on genetic expression is time limited, as
>> > opposed to “genetic” information, does not seem to last more than 4
>> > generations.
>> >
>> > Best regards,
>> >
>> > Waldemar
>> >
>> > Waldemar A Schmidt, PhD, MD
>> > (Perseveret et Percipiunt)
>> > 503.631.8044
>> >
>> > Strive not to be a success, but rather to be of value. (A Einstein)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Jul 16, 2018, at 8:01 AM, JOHN TORDAY
>> > <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi Joe, I haven't read The Singular Universe, but have read Smolin's
>> > book The Life of the Cosmos, in which he uses Darwinian evolution
>> > theory to explain Black Holes and other Cosmologic phenomena. I
>> > found that quite remarkable both because we Biologists haven't been
>> > able to explain the mechanisms of biology using Darwinian evolution,
>> > and because Smolin is merging the animate and inanimate into one.
>> > Oh, and btw, are you familiar with the 'dust up' between Einstein
>> > and Bergson circa 1922, Einstein insisting that time isn't real,
>> > Bergson stipulating that time is essential to understanding
>> > physiology? At any rate, my 'aha' moment occurred when I realized
>> > that time is an artifact of descriptive biology. That is to say, in
>> > the emerging discipline of epigenetic inheritance, previously known
>> > as Lamarckian, the organism is an agent for collecting epigenetic
>> > data, which it carries back to its germ cells- egg and sperm-
>> > modifying them 'epigenetically' by changing the way in which DNA is
>> > translated into RNA and protein, beginning with the zygote, or
>> > fertilized egg, the embryo, the offspring, the life cycle, and back
>> > again to the zygote. In other words, it is the unicellular state
>> > that is being selected for, which is striving to maintain its
>> > identity in an ever-changing environment by modifying its offspring
>> > to interface with the environment in order to collect epigenetic
>> > 'data' to inform the unicellular state of the organism. It's what is
>> > called the Red Queen phenomenon, like the character in Alice in
>> > Wonderland who is 'running as fast as she can to remain in place'.
>> > This perspective on the biologic imperative as 'stasis' is
>> > counterintuitive, yet once it is realized it explains why it is that
>> > we must return to the unicellular state over the course of the life
>> > cycle, for example. Mechanistically, the cell cytoskeleton exists in
>> > three discrete states- homeostatic, mitotic and meiotic. Those
>> > states are determined by a specific gene, Target of Rapamycin, which
>> > is interconnected with all of the structures and functions of the
>> > cell, controlling which state the cell exists in. Seen in this way,
>> > time is an artifact in biology, as it is in physics, both of which
>> > are striving to attain the Singularity that existed prior to the Big
>> > Bang. Biology recapitulates its 'Big Bang' from one life cycle to
>> > the next; physics does so through the expansion and contraction of
>> > the Universe.
>> >
>> > Just as a reality check, the same thing occurs in a bee hive, the
>> > queen bee maintaining the genetic and epigenetic 'history' of the
>> > colony, the sterile drones flying off daily to nominally collect
>> > pollen to make honey, all the while providing epigenetic data to the
>> > queen in the process; at some point in that cycle the hive will
>> > eventually 'collapse', the queen flying off with the epigenetic data
>> > from the current environment to recreate the hive elsewhere. There
>> > are other well-known examples like the slime mold Dictyostellium
>> > switching between the amoeboid and colonial forms depending on how
>> > much food is available, and Turitopsis dorneii, the so-called
>> > 'immortal' jellyfish, thought to be death-less because under stress
>> > it reverts to its adolescent form, as if it had found the 'fountain
>> > of youth' NOT. In reality it's just figured out a way to collect
>> > epigenetic information by changing forms, but the underlying
>> > principle of interacting with the environment to obtain epigenetic
>> > data is a constant in all of these conditions. We do the same,
>> > chucking our bodies at the time of death, but our microbiomes (the
>> > bacteria that represent 70-90% of our bodies), which is informed
>> > through epigenetics over the course of our lifetimes, lives on! It's
>> > been documented as the 'necrobiome', which goes back into the soil
>> > (unless we are cremated or put into a concrete bunker), back into
>> > the water supply where it can be assimilated by the flora, eaten by
>> > the fauna, and re-constituted. The microbiome of the mother is
>> > located in the uterus, where the child will ingest it when it exits
>> > via the birth canal at the time of birth!
>> >
>> > Aha moment indeed! I think that if we were to understand the actual
>> > mechanisms of biology we would be less anxious about our lives,
>> > being able to put things into perspective....just sayin'.  John
>> >
>> > On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 5:58 AM, Joseph Michalski
>> > <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>> > Dear Colleagues:
>> >
>> > I understand everyone has busy intellectual agendas, but I thought
>> > I'd share an interesting parallel discovery from the past weekend
>> > (beyond the recent discovery of neutrinos from a distant galaxy!).
>> > My wife and I were flying back from England, reading next to each
>> > other on the plane. I was reading Roberto Unger and Lee Smolin's The
>> > Singular Universe and the Reality of Time as part of my efforts to
>> > understand the cosmos and our broader TOK mission. My wife, who's a
>> > Sufi Muslim, was reading Sadegh Angha's (41st Sufi Master) The
>> > Hidden Angles of Life in her efforts to understand the cosmos from a
>> > religious worldview. Here's what we were reading at the same time
>> > from our respective books:
>> >
>> > Joe, the scientist, read on p. 8: “If, however, everything is
>> > time-bound (a key argument of the book), that principle must apply
>> > as well to the laws, symmetries, and constants of nature. There are
>> > then no timeless regularities capable of underwriting our causal
>> > judgments. Change changes. It is not just the phenomena that change;
>> > so do the regularities: the laws, symmetries, and supposed constants
>> > of nature.”
>> >
>> > Farnaz, the spiritualist, read on p. xi: “(T)he laws of physics are
>> > fundamentally and essentially variable (for example, there is much
>> > evidence and documentation that most of the constant principles of
>> > nature and those influenced by gravity are in fact not constant).
>> > Existence itself is in motion.” (emphasis in the original)
>> >
>> > Just some food for future thought. If I arrive at any great insights
>> > from all of this, I'll be happy to share. At the same time, perhaps
>> > others on the list have had their own "a-ha" moments in terms of
>> > understanding the evolving nature of the universe, the constancy of
>> > change, and the implications that nature's laws might best be viewed
>> > from a cosmological, historical perspective. Yours kindly, -Joe
>> >
>> >
>> > Dr. Joseph H. Michalski
>> >
>> > Associate Academic Dean
>> >
>> > King’s University College at Western University
>> >
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