Waldemar, Good questions. So, what do you think has been the Causes of why students arrive formed as they do in the West for their Univesity education? Hint: it has nothing to do with the “content” of their formal education, which is exactly what Plato, being an Athenian, promoted, and has been taken up in the modern era, thus the focus on Dialectic over Grammar. Also, why even think that technology might “get us out of this?” To put it differently, what might the Grammar School of the Digital Paradigm in the West look like? On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 13:23 Waldemar A Schmidt, PhD, MD < [log in to unmask]> wrote: > A proposed perspective: > > Postulated: the nature, quality, and extent of American (USA) pre-college > and undergraduate education has played a significantly central role in our > arrival at the place where we find ourselves at present. If so, then > plausibly we face multiple decades of work to extricate ourselves. > Technology alone isn’t going to get us out of this, even if technology has > played a major role in getting to where we are. > > Perhaps a multi-focal discussion in depth will ensue? > > Best regards, > > Waldemar > > Waldemar A Schmidt, PhD, MD > (Perseveret et Percipiunt) > Sent from my iPad > > > On Oct 5, 2018, at 4:36 AM, Mark Stahlman <[log in to unmask]> > wrote: > > > > Gregg: > > > > Good question! As we've been discussing, we are currently in the middle > of a "counter-culture" -- caused by *digital* technology. So how do we > figure this one out? > > > > These cultural "transition" events happen at roughly 50-60 year > intervals. Unless the structure of these cultural changes is understood, > nothing "adaptive" is possible. > > > > 2018: Brett Kavanaugh nomination > > > > 1967: Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band > > > > 1917: Russian Revolution > > > > 1848: Communist Manifesto > > > > 1789: French Revolution > > > > Your notion of "Culture" based on mythological mentality (c. 50,000 > years ago) clearly can't explain any of this. "Social psychology" is > derived from WW II psychological warfare (i.e. formed the basis of the > "Cold War"), so it is equally impotent when facing these challenges. > Sociology is equally crippled. > > > > Without an understanding of *causality* -- which is what Marshall > McLuhan tried to provide in the 1960s counter-culture -- it's just another > version of the "elephant in the parlor" with people describing the > superficial features of the situation (e.g. "figures") without any clues > about what is actually going on (e.g. the "ground.") > > > > No current social science can provide that understanding. That is why > they all need to be replaced. Every single one of them. > > > > Without a thorough understanding of how technology *formally* causes us > to behave as we do -- which, in turn, requires an understanding of > Aristotle's Causes (not Plato's Forms) -- the headlines will continue to > baffle (and, for some, bemuse) . . . !! > > > > Mark > > > > P.S. As it turns out, I was the person who gave Tom Friedman the basic > idea for his "The World is Flat" -- at a 1997 seminar at the Aspen > Institute -- after which he became an "expert" in technology (largely > supplied to him by Microsoft.) Alas, from what I can tell, he has > forgotten most of what I taught him. He now appears to be just another > blind-man stumbling around in the dark. > > > > Quoting "Henriques, Gregg - henriqgx" <[log in to unmask]>: > > > >> Hi List, > >> As I am sure you saw, Trump mocked Dr. Ford in his speech the other > night, to the applause of the crowd. > >> > >> Today, there is the following article about academic hoaxers who are > following in the footsteps of Alan Sokal< > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__en.wikipedia.org_wiki_Sokal-5Faffair&d=DwIBaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=L43AqSoOXAohCdYEQ4Jyyp-oOcHT3mW-x979veW31fU&s=9RlRwjqu2YRx0FjmrCZnMIe0QgG43MpG0r7-P4LEKEI&e=> > (an event I covered in my final Fifth Joint Point chapter), and attempting > to demonstrate the intellectual vacuity of some of the social justice > perspectives in the academy: > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.nytimes.com_2018_10_04_arts_academic-2Djournals-2Dhoax.html-3Femc-3Dedit-5Fth-5F181005-26nl-3Dtodaysheadlines-26nlid-3D352238941005&d=DwIBaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=L43AqSoOXAohCdYEQ4Jyyp-oOcHT3mW-x979veW31fU&s=_rfnB4Tz9fNM020_wLJHYf0MbzuCp40ogRjmvFlpPKU&e= > >> > >> I am sharing these two events for us to reflect on where we are in > terms of our social identity, and how to think about it. I think the > juxtaposition between these two events is striking. As Tom Friedman put it > a couple of days ago< > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.nytimes.com_2018_10_02_opinion_the-2Damerican-2Dcivil-2Dwar-2Dpart-2Dii.html&d=DwIBaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=L43AqSoOXAohCdYEQ4Jyyp-oOcHT3mW-x979veW31fU&s=VmoIkb7EvrI-13_ZzdVzsboT1sPdzkponDOACNqP5s0&e=> > (American Civil War, Part II), we are about as ideologically divided as > ever before. > >> > >> Given this, and our knowledge of psychology and sociology, what might > be some adaptive paths going forward? > >> > >> Best, > >> Gregg > >> > >> ___________________________________________ > >> Gregg Henriques, Ph.D. > >> Professor > >> Department of Graduate Psychology > >> 216 Johnston Hall > >> MSC 7401 > >> James Madison University > >> Harrisonburg, VA 22807 > >> (540) 568-7857 (phone) > >> (540) 568-4747 (fax) > >> > >> Be that which enhances dignity and well-being with integrity. > >> Check out my Theory of Knowledge blog at Psychology Today at: > >> > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.psychologytoday.com_blog_theory-2Dknowledge&d=DwIBaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=L43AqSoOXAohCdYEQ4Jyyp-oOcHT3mW-x979veW31fU&s=CXs_7BDqrVGSLytuiklmDl7n2aJ2Jv77rxodEPRUnBc&e= > >> > >> Check out my webpage at: > >> www.gregghenriques.com< > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.gregghenriques.com&d=DwIBaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=L43AqSoOXAohCdYEQ4Jyyp-oOcHT3mW-x979veW31fU&s=x6pQgSyB_w6HWjhczYxvdgcpUw5HufOBuafQSCY_Pas&e= > > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ############################ > >> > >> To unsubscribe from the TOK-SOCIETY-L list: > >> write to: mailto:[log in to unmask] > >> or click the following link: > >> http://listserv.jmu.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=TOK-SOCIETY-L&A=1 > > > > ############################ > > > > To unsubscribe from the TOK-SOCIETY-L list: > > write to: mailto:[log in to unmask] > > or click the following link: > > http://listserv.jmu.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=TOK-SOCIETY-L&A=1 > > > > ############################ > > To unsubscribe from the TOK-SOCIETY-L list: > write to: mailto:[log in to unmask] > or click the following link: > http://listserv.jmu.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=TOK-SOCIETY-L&A=1 > -- Jeffrey A. 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