Dear Gregg and Joe, thanks for sharing that clip from Amadeus. Based on my own reduction of 'self' with Bill Miller (see attached; ideally to be read in the context of 'The Singularity of Nature' (see attached), I think that the transactional process between Salieri and Mozart required that both had a strong sense of who they were, because if not, one would have subsumed the other for lack of 'character strength' for lack of a better term. Ideally, they would have struck a homeostatic 'balance' that you are referring to as the + TGB SS. But ultimately I think we have to understand the premise of 'how and why' we exist or this is all just sophistry. Why homeostasis- because it is the mechanism that prevailed post-Big Bang....the 'equal and opposite reaction that ascribes to Newton's Third Law of Motion. I say that because without it there would be no matter, just free, chaotic energy (Alfred North Whitehead's 'Process Philosophy'). So homeostasis is the universal principle behind all matter, inanimate and animate alike. So that would suggest pan-psychism, which we agree seems silly- a rock is not conscious, unless we are defining consciousness as what we humans think it is, but is not. Cut to the chase, I think that we misconstrue consciousness as being aware of ourselves and our surroundings, but that is an anthropomorphism. All organisms are conscious, it's just a function of their particular environment/Niche as to what it constitutes, which is the endogenization of the external environment, forming physiology by compartmentalizing those features of the Laws of Nature in order to survive and remain in sync with The First Principles of Physiology, which reference the Singularity prior to the Big Bang. So in other words Consciousness is the way in which we and all matter connect with the Cosmos as the entirety of the product of the Singularity/Big Bang. Only then will we understand the + TGB SS, IMHO. On Mon, Jan 21, 2019 at 6:02 AM Joseph Michalski <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Thanks for sharing Gregg. Indeed, I had transcribed the words of the clip > and shared these because I thought it represented such an excellent example > of what the pursuit of the TGB looks like when, however fleetingly, that > occurs unfettered by all the trappings of one's ego. It's below zero here > (Fahrenheit), but I already have a warm feeling for the rest of the day! > Peace, -Joe > > > Dr. Joseph H. Michalski > > Associate Academic Dean > > King’s University College at Western University > > 266 Epworth Avenue > > London, Ontario, Canada N6A 2M3 > > Tel: (519) 433-3491 > > Fax: (519) 963-1263 > > Email: [log in to unmask] > > ______________________ > > *ei*π + 1 = 0 > > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* tree of knowledge system discussion < > [log in to unmask]> on behalf of Henriques, Gregg - henriqgx < > [log in to unmask]> > *Sent:* Monday, January 21, 2019 8:15 AM > *To:* [log in to unmask] > *Subject:* + True Good Beautiful Self-States > > > Hi List, > > Joe M and I were talking yesterday about the nature of Positive > True/Good/Beautiful Self-states (+ TGB SS), relative to Negative > False/Bad/Ugly Self-States (- FBU SS). He reminded me of the movie Amadeus, > and explained why it was such a great illustration of these dynamics > (although apparently the movie is not exactly an accurate portrayal of > Salieri’s actual relationship to Mozart). In the movie, Salieri struggles > with feelings of jealousy, envy and inadequacy, and at the same time, loves > the beauty of Mozart. > > > > Here is a great clip where he makes full contact with that side of the > equation and thus you can see and feel the + TGB SS flow… > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__video.search.yahoo.com_yhs_search-3Ffr-3Dyhs-2Ditm-2D001-26hsimp-3Dyhs-2D001-26hspart-3Ditm-26p-3Dmozart-2Bsalieri-2Bfavorite-23id-3D1-26vid-3Dec20d8e7c1a0f8481a186b0532e2f150-26action-3Dclick&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=felM6t-23shozx04zWWYuMYveYgVSLrmBcAdF8HJ0ls&s=olOxHaU5lvvcxwxuADbK0JfD8vq71uPza9-krWUL4xc&e= > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__video.search.yahoo.com_yhs_search-3Ffr-3Dyhs-2Ditm-2D001-26hsimp-3Dyhs-2D001-26hspart-3Ditm-26p-3Dmozart-2Bsalieri-2Bfavorite-23id-3D1-26vid-3Dec20d8e7c1a0f8481a186b0532e2f150-26action-3Dclick&d=DwMF-w&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=joZshrnMRKKNH0IZ2n6Sp_XKKxlpaFEIULZwPzqQLyw&s=A8VyhjcugTf7mTdBvnCpsx0F1g304JzMc1WBdDtH2KQ&e=> > mozart salieri favorite - Yahoo Video Search Results > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__video.search.yahoo.com_yhs_search-3Ffr-3Dyhs-2Ditm-2D001-26hsimp-3Dyhs-2D001-26hspart-3Ditm-26p-3Dmozart-2Bsalieri-2Bfavorite-23id-3D1-26vid-3Dec20d8e7c1a0f8481a186b0532e2f150-26action-3Dclick&d=DwMF-w&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=joZshrnMRKKNH0IZ2n6Sp_XKKxlpaFEIULZwPzqQLyw&s=A8VyhjcugTf7mTdBvnCpsx0F1g304JzMc1WBdDtH2KQ&e=> > video.search.yahoo.com > The search engine that helps you find exactly what you're looking for. > Find the most relevant information, video, images, and answers from all > across the Web. > > > > Thanks to Joe who pointed this out to me yesterday. > > > > Best, > G > ############################ > > To unsubscribe from the TOK-SOCIETY-L list: write to: > mailto:[log in to unmask] or click the > following link: > http://listserv.jmu.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=TOK-SOCIETY-L&A=1 > ############################ > > To unsubscribe from the TOK-SOCIETY-L list: write to: > mailto:[log in to unmask] or click the > following link: > http://listserv.jmu.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=TOK-SOCIETY-L&A=1 > ############################ To unsubscribe from the TOK-SOCIETY-L list: write to: mailto:[log in to unmask] or click the following link: http://listserv.jmu.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=TOK-SOCIETY-L&A=1