....As for other big picture views overlooking the nervous system the one
example I know of that sort of does so are
"Neural Nets", which are algorithms based on the nervous system applied to
other things....

On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 6:28 AM JOHN TORDAY <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Gregg, thanks for your feedback. I would like to think that a rational
> understanding of where we stand in the Cosmos would mitigate against all of
> the fear-based things that we are experiencing, like Climate Change and
> whether we have enough 'friends' on Facebook, but as a clinical
> psychologist you know only too well that fear 'trumps' logic. I have long
> been fascinated by the fine difference between stress as a motivator for
> learning vs 'fight or flight'. The irony is that it is a strong, cohesive
> social system that allows us to learn instead of flee, which is what we're
> discussing, right? What I am driving at is that I see a pressing need to
> reinstate reason as a valid mode of thinking instead of sound bites and
> reactions. Just sayin'.....I look forward to seeing what you guys hammer
> out and how you disseminate it.
>
> In this context, I have had an interesting interaction with a couple of
> Profs at University of Liverpool interested in new ways of engaging their
> students. One of them who is responsible for revamping the curriculum to
> make it more relevant has been exposing me to a cybernetics guy name of
> Stafford Beer who developed a way of designing businesses based on organic
> principles. Turns out his theory is pretty much the same as the way I've
> spun evolutionary biology interacting with the environment on a 'unit'
> level. The other Prof is a physicist who has devised an entirely new
> mathematics, so I'm hoping he can express both me and Beer digitally.....
> Peace, John
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 5:59 AM Henriques, Gregg - henriqgx <
> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for sharing this, John. I was not aware of the Journal of Big
>> History until you shared with me that article a little while back. It is
>> helpful to see and it seems that it would make sense to attempt to get an
>> article on the ToK in that journal. As I have mentioned in a few of my
>> writings
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.psychologytoday.com_us_blog_theory-2Dknowledge_201611_three-2Dcheers-2Dbig-2Dhistory&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=S-zmxb2525g27dbE-6aUIqhp3E8CXEm90Q--nuRqsV8&s=k7tlCCUFEueiZxqo4UsaGaDIhSBFx6wgsaTBbL3Y0pI&e=>
>> and recent submissions, I see much overlap and connection with the Big
>> History Movement and the ToK. [One important area of difference is that
>> they do not include the mental order of nature, but rather jump from “big
>> life” into early human ancestors. Interestingly, other big picture views
>> overlook the nervous system
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__en.wikipedia.org_wiki_The-5FMajor-5FTransitions-5Fin-5FEvolution&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=S-zmxb2525g27dbE-6aUIqhp3E8CXEm90Q--nuRqsV8&s=IrF7em5uL-3yeBPIbcgsiP7HbZkFgthOQracPFdMrb0&e=>.]
>>
>>
>>
>> Regardless, you and I agree that we need better ways of connecting the
>> silos and seeing the big picture.
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Gregg
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* tree of knowledge system discussion <
>> [log in to unmask]> *On Behalf Of *JOHN TORDAY
>> *Sent:* Saturday, March 30, 2019 2:12 PM
>> *To:* [log in to unmask]
>> *Subject:* Re: Age of Clarity
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear ToK Society, I applaud the effort of the ToK Executive Committee to
>> try and devise a means of rectifying the immense confusion generated by the
>> WWW, for lack of a better way to express the problem. Starting with the
>> conflating of information and knowledge as if they are one and the same,
>> and (perhaps) ending with the way that computer technology feeds into our
>> already over the top narcissism, somehow there has to be a way to reassert
>> relavent values into the processes of thought and action. I know that I am
>> not a social scientist, but I am a member of society, so I have a deep
>> concern for the direction that we as a species are (inadvertently)
>> divesting ourselves of our past and tossing a Hail Mary pass. In my own
>> small way I have joined forces with the Big History movement fostered by
>> David Christian, a historian from Australia who teaches world history
>> starting with the Big Bang. I have attached a paper to be publlshed in The
>> Big History Journal (in press) merging of evolutionary biology and history
>> as a way of  'appreciating' how we are connected through such big picture
>> concepts as a continuum, not as silos of disconnected thoughts. As
>> academicians we have a responsibility to do something about the chaotic way
>> in which society has been disrupted by computerization. It's only a tool,
>> not a life style dammit!
>>
>>
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>>
>>
>> John Torday
>>
>> Professor of Pediatrics
>>
>> Obstetrics and Gynecology
>>
>> Evolutionary Medicine
>>
>> UCLA
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 6:00 AM Henriques, Gregg - henriqgx <
>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>> Dear TOK Society Members,
>>
>>
>>
>>   I am pleased to share with you a blog the TOK Executive Committee
>> (i.e., Edward Kroger, Joe Michalski, Steve Quackenbush, Waldemar Schmidt
>> and myself) published this morning, titled *Toward an Age of Clarity*:
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.psychologytoday.com_us_blog_theory-2Dknowledge_201903_toward-2Dthe-2Dage-2Dclarity&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=S-zmxb2525g27dbE-6aUIqhp3E8CXEm90Q--nuRqsV8&s=xZjqKdSf0c88YmMPZMxNbSS8ulo7pMITBbTndMFZahA&e=
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.psychologytoday.com_us_blog_theory-2Dknowledge_201903_toward-2Dthe-2Dage-2Dclarity&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=tJMdUCNzZ3qT_wi5rStsBf4HfPOQz7hVmVOWgHu1hnU&s=0h4gqXGiB7xEXz8XB6fZqRhBweFtSxp-0mgTqAqDBkU&e=>
>>
>>
>>
>> Please check it out and share as broadly as possible. We think this is an
>> important message to disseminate and get people talking about. Here is the
>> “preface”:
>>
>>
>>
>> *In an ideologically-fractured culture, it is all-too-easy to lose sight
>> of our common humanity. While there are many reasons for our collective
>> failure to achieve consensus in the spheres of ethics and politics
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.psychologytoday.com_us_basics_politics&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=tJMdUCNzZ3qT_wi5rStsBf4HfPOQz7hVmVOWgHu1hnU&s=35d4M-8qHQrQbB51CiSv49yuDGNXaGT3CmufsupgldI&e=>,
>> we believe that our current spiritual
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.psychologytoday.com_us_basics_spirituality&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=tJMdUCNzZ3qT_wi5rStsBf4HfPOQz7hVmVOWgHu1hnU&s=_zllZfSHTFqI2uZAnurRnWyEH60zmw5ipdVUusvjyxM&e=>
>> malaise reflects, at least in part, a breakdown in our very capacity to
>> share wisdom
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.psychologytoday.com_us_basics_wisdom&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=tJMdUCNzZ3qT_wi5rStsBf4HfPOQz7hVmVOWgHu1hnU&s=etzD1YN0V1JWn4hNPBOiJelqHgzXtIKCJ4H6HJ8gnvc&e=>. As
>> such, we believe it is important to find ways to communicate that free us
>> from unnecessary confusions and allow bridges to be built between refined
>> knowledge systems and fundamental common-sense propositions. In short, if
>> our society is to move from confusion to clarity, wisdom must be
>> consolidated and shared in a way that fosters understanding and collective
>> well-being. *
>>
>>
>>
>> Would love to hear reactions or thoughts or hopes if people have them.
>>
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Gregg
>>
>>
>>
>> ___________________________________________
>>
>> Gregg Henriques, Ph.D.
>> Professor
>> Department of Graduate Psychology
>> 216 Johnston Hall
>> MSC 7401
>> James Madison University
>> Harrisonburg, VA 22807
>> (540) 568-7857 (phone)
>> (540) 568-4747 (fax)
>>
>>
>> *Be that which enhances dignity and well-being with integrity.*
>>
>> Check out my Theory of Knowledge blog at Psychology Today at:
>>
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.psychologytoday.com_blog_theory-2Dknowledge&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=S-zmxb2525g27dbE-6aUIqhp3E8CXEm90Q--nuRqsV8&s=0ppWV3M7sr_AhtumsmPBXxjhyJuxRnme9Z5gtMGU-Oc&e=
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.psychologytoday.com_blog_theory-2Dknowledge&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=tJMdUCNzZ3qT_wi5rStsBf4HfPOQz7hVmVOWgHu1hnU&s=Q00Amy4oB2mSWJTlBSPeNbgt9JPfaxjy_28B6Ow6Vas&e=>
>>
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