Waldemar A Schmidt, PhD, MD
(Perseveret et Percipiunt)
503.631.8044

Strive not to be a success, but rather to be of value. (A Einstein)

On Aug 27, 2019, at 9:02 AM, Henriques, Gregg - henriqgx <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Hi Folks,
  Recall that one facet of the Digital Identity Problem is the digital-globalization meta-crisis, which refers to the enormous “game-changer” that the digital landscape will bring us. I think one of the most dangerous aspect of the digital landscape is that it is so easy to have it create whatever reality folks want.
 
Here is an article by Jordan Peterson on “deep fakes” that gets at a disturbing aspect of this development.
https://nationalpost.com/opinion/jordan-peterson-deep-fake

Best,
Gregg
 
From: tree of knowledge system discussion <[log in to unmask]> On Behalf Of Waldemar Schmidt
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2019 12:55 PM
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Dear TOK discussion friends:
 
Many thanks to both Lonnie and Gregg for the comments about mental health and senior citizens!
 
I find the Brookings report illuminating and very disturbing (https://www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/casetextsp17bpea.pdf),
Where the college student suicide problem is well documented that of the general and mental health of the general USA population doesn’t seem to be - or, at least, is not as widely available.
The Case and Deaton data are well worth the time spent reading - they provide objective and temporally-indexed data.
While some may differ with the concept of a digital identity crisis it seems pretty obvious that we are headed there in a big hurry.
 
My experience practicing medicine has led me to the concern that we (in the USA) have been practicing a “way of life” which is inimical to mental and physical well-being of the general population.
Case and Deaton demonstrate how long this has been going on.
AND, we may objectively compare our “life-style: (if not culture &worldview) with that of other nations and peoples.
 
Is it too much to compare our “cultural outcomes crisis” with the “global warming crisis?”
The current paths of these two problems have already lead to grim outcomes - the final “crater” ain’t going to be very pretty!
 
Best regards,
 
Waldemar
 
Waldemar A Schmidt, PhD, MD
(Perseveret et Percipiunt)
503.631.8044

Strive not to be a success, but rather to be of value. (A Einstein)


On Aug 25, 2019, at 8:19 AM, Henriques, Gregg - henriqgx <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
 

Lonnie,
 I see the mental health crisis as being quite pervasive and would consider this observation to fall mostly under the mental health crisis, although it clearly also connects to the meaning and digital-globalization crises. My primary question would be: Are we seeing an aggregate shift in the mental health of the elderly? I have not seen data along those lines. When I look I see definite, strong aggregate data pointing to a rise in mental health problems in the youth. There is also good data that the general and mental health of "lower class" whites has dropped (see here https://www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/casetextsp17bpea.pdf).

 So, your point is well taken and your reflections are exactly what I hope the Digital Identity Problem formulation does, which is provide a macro-level frame to see the situation we are in and then start to line up many different patterns in the world to raise our collective consciousness. 

Thanks much for this reflection. I would be interested in looking over your dissertation if you feel like sharing it.

Best,
Gregg 

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From: tree of knowledge system discussion <[log in to unmask]> On Behalf Of Lonny Meinecke
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2019 1:03 PM
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Thanks Gregg!

We might add, as well, a 5th aspect (or subcategory of item 4). There is an identity crisis and self-worth crisis among the senior community, as we find ourselves expected to keep up with a rate of cognitive growth (a selective, amensal growth so to speak) that easily outstrips our evolutionary capacity (the rate of our commensal growth so to speak). The need to memorize so many passwords associated with fleeting products and industries, to intuitively navigate so many different "interfaces" (using so many different browsers, each trying to avoid the other's copyrighted design while establishing a single standard), make sweeping gestures that magically summon hidden items behind glass screens… and so forth.

I am seeing a recurrent "repertoire" of new expressions of anguish and anxiety on the faces of elderly persons exhibiting worried cognitive saccades as they like living rasters try to find the attentional button of the day. You can watch them as they sweep their heads like turrets from side to side and top to bottom - the growing fear of failure in their eyes - the collapse of self worth and admission of burgeoning cognitive "deficits" because they are expected to intuit what is not remotely instinctual. Curiously, G Stanley Hall said much the same 100 years ago about the plight of children (Search, 1901, p. 51-52).

Nearly every day I hear admissions of insufficient self-worth by persons I once admired, and not because their abilities have diminished but because the expectations of a digital world make us all feel outdated and obsolete.

For our group, I think this offers a chance to challenge our assumptions in the broad sense, and see if we might foster reverence for what we biologically are (unique individuated creatures with the need to be valued by our fellows) more than what we mentally lack (too young to be of any value, too old to be of any value, or just right to be of temporary value to society). What do you think? Some of this is in my dissertation's chapter 5 and based on my method (physical age bias: too young, too old, or just right and mental age bias: not smart, not smart enough, or just right).

Thanks!
Lonny

Reference

Search, P. W. (1901). An ideal school, or looking forward. In W. T. Harris (Ed.), International Education Series (Vol. LII, pp. 1-357). New York, NY: D. Appleton and Company.

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