@ All, There are models that try and resolve the split between psychology and behaviorism by contextualizing them in a larger scope. Three examples: Ken Wilber has a perspectival quadrant model about interior/exterior over individual/collective, where behaviorism leans towards exterior observation and psychology leans more towards interior observation. Michael Commons has a model called three ways of knowing where he divides it into analytical (no path of detection), phenomenological (one path of detection) and empirical (two or more paths of detection). For Commons, mathematics is analytic, psychology is phenomenological, and behaviorism is empirical. Soren Briar has a semiotic model that divides sense making into those that emphasize physical, life, mind, and social, like Gregg’s, but the difference in that it contextualizes it with information theory. Here, behaviorism emphasizes the physical and life classes, and psychology emphasizes the mind and social classes, and both interprets the other from their respective semiotic systems. Cory > On Sep 3, 2019, at 1:03 PM, Peter Lloyd Jones <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > Thank you for sharing Gregg. I am lost a bit here. Isn’t doing the pursuing of a goal, and isn’t “doping" a verb that we all understand? Also, considering that "goaling" often ends in failing, why try to sell that as doing? Doing is healthy and true despite success or failure. And isn’t it self-evident that all doing has a purpose, or a goal, even if it’s an impossible goal or poorly planned purpose? > > I get further lost the more I read of the piece. Unless one is a radical behaviorist, isn’t it well accepted that behavior is an external and internal process, and not simply an externally observed event? I am naive here so is this an example of complicating the obvious, not improving communication? > Peter > > > > Peter Lloyd Jones > [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> > 562-209-4080 > > Sent by determined causes that no amount of will is able to thwart. > > > >> On Aug 30, 2019, at 12:08 PM, Henriques, Gregg - henriqgx <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: >> >> I was backchanneled that the link to the blog might not have worked, so I am resending: >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.psychologytoday.com_us_blog_in-2Dcontrol_201908_there-2Ds-2Dno-2Dsuch-2Dthing-2Dbehavior&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=Ti_HqHx0of_lx9p1Ng4Oyql0b1LKfdlcxeAu8VddnZE&s=3l4-ILw395u1IbdlgLX3S6yAb_qUvHFUKG7CY9-Q2Hc&e= <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.psychologytoday.com_us_blog_in-2Dcontrol_201908_there-2Ds-2Dno-2Dsuch-2Dthing-2Dbehavior&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=cIdywBCDEd_bYHM4PpRtonzGrugbLVD5J5A0iz0Np-I&s=nJbTUMlyhFKllQJIW3qSVj2QBaZ2LHVbkdiB65RcJ3g&e=> >> >> G >> >> From: Henriques, Gregg - henriqgx >> Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 6:55 AM >> To: [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>' <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> >> Subject: Definitional Chaos >> >> Hi List, >> As some of you know, my primary focus for my sabbatical was working on a new book, The Problem of Psychology and Its Solution. I have gotten side tracked a bit from that, perhaps most notably being currently focused on The Digital Identity Problem and Its Solution. But, yesterday I saw this article on Psychology Today because it was one of the most popular and it reminded how obviously impaired we are when it comes to having a conceptual language system that is up to the task of defining our field’s key terms (i.e., behavior, mind, and (human/self) consciousness). >> >> There is No Such Thing As Behavior <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.psychologytoday.com_us_blog_in-2Dcontrol_201908_there-2Ds-2Dno-2Dsuch-2Dthing-2Dbehavior&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=cIdywBCDEd_bYHM4PpRtonzGrugbLVD5J5A0iz0Np-I&s=nJbTUMlyhFKllQJIW3qSVj2QBaZ2LHVbkdiB65RcJ3g&e=> >> >> Best, >> Gregg >> >> ############################ >> To unsubscribe from the TOK-SOCIETY-L list: write to: mailto:[log in to unmask] <mailto:mailto:[log in to unmask]> or click the following link: http://listserv.jmu.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=TOK-SOCIETY-L&A=1 <http://listserv.jmu.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=TOK-SOCIETY-L&A=1> > ############################ > To unsubscribe from the TOK-SOCIETY-L list: write to: mailto:[log in to unmask] <mailto:mailto:[log in to unmask]> or click the following link: http://listserv.jmu.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=TOK-SOCIETY-L&A=1 <http://listserv.jmu.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=TOK-SOCIETY-L&A=1> ############################ To unsubscribe from the TOK-SOCIETY-L list: write to: mailto:[log in to unmask] or click the following link: http://listserv.jmu.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=TOK-SOCIETY-L&A=1