@ Alexander

I wasn’t judging validity of beliefs, just describing them. Thanks for noting and sharing Penrose relevance. Cyclical time is very ancient, I think the earliest notions of cyclical time go back to Upanishads and Jainists. Maybe you or others know of earlier notions.

Cory

On Sep 3, 2019, at 2:09 PM, Alexander Bard <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Dear Cory

Since Mattias Bojowald presented his equations to Roger Penrose and Lee Smolin on the big bounce, the big bang theory is more or less dead. Penrose started this whole new trend in physics with his book "Cycles of Time".

There are no zeroes and no infinity singns in the universe. As should have been expected. The big bang only ended up in mathematics the way it did because it never happened.

Get used to the idea of a massive pulse as universe. And therefore at least two time dimensions, one of them preceding the big bounce itself.

Best intentions

Alexander Bard

Den tis 3 sep. 2019 kl 18:41 skrev Cory David Barker <[log in to unmask]>:

@ Gregg

Organicism takes the position that the entire universe is fundamentally organismic. Panpsychism takes the position that the entire universe is fundamentally a mind. Pantheism takes the position that the entire universe is fundamentally god. So in contrast, materialism takes the position that the entire universe is fundamentally physical.

In all cases, science hits a brick wall at the big bang because science requires tangible things to measure, and in scientific cosmogonic models, before the big bang there isn't anything tangible. Of course, just because we can’t measure something, doesn’t mean it isn’t real, but that can be a slippery slope that invites all manner of projection.

Cory

On Sep 3, 2019, at 9:54 AM, Henriques, Gregg - henriqgx <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Hi List,

  I was having an interesting conversation with Alexander B. who was making the case that it might help folks to better understand my system if they started with the basics and used basic language. I shared with him the fact that when my daughter Syndey was four she came to me out of the blue and said, “Look, Daddy, I drew your work! See, rocks, plants, animals, people!” See the attached.

 

It was interesting to juxtapose that conversation with an exchange on a list of philosophers I am on that was debating the meaning of the terms “physicalism” and “materialism” and exploring what is called The Galileo Commission, subtitled “Beyond a Materialist Worldview”. I wrote to the list and shared the ToK perspective and asked if they would consider the ToK to be a materialist/physicalist worldview or not. (I don’t think there is much core agreement about what that is, other than that it rejects the dualistic supernatural view).

 

Best,
Gregg 

 

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