Haven't had time to listen to the podcast but love to discover another 
UBI opponent!

I am convinced that UBI is one of the worst ideas ever.

Now I have to listen to the podcast... :-D

Best,

Lene

On 07-10-2019 23:02, nysa71 wrote:
> I am thoroughly opposed to Yang based on just his awful UBI and VAT 
> ideas alone. Basically, it's just neoliberalism dressed up as 
> progressivism, and is nothing but a Trojan Horse that'll ultimately 
> hurt the poor and working class.
>
> A standalone UBI would most certainly be inflationary, which hurts the 
> poor the most. But he proposes tethering the UBI to a VAT which, 
> (besides being a bureaucratic nightmare), is ultimately regressive, 
> since such a tax would be passed onto consumers by embedding it within 
> the final price of goods.
>
> So essentially, the poor will end up paying for the UBI with the UBI.
>
> On top of that, Yang's proposal will ultimately be used as a 
> /justification/ for cutting other social programs, (e.g., Social 
> Security, SNAP, etc.)
>
>  I 100% support the Federal Job Guarantee as an alternative --- a much 
> a more solid macroeconomic proposal. A full employment program. 
> Federally funded, but locally managed. Since dollars are added to the 
> economy coupled with real output, there's minimal inflationary risk. 
> And it's a counter-cyclical, automatic stabilizer, (as opposed to the 
> UBI, a pro-cyclical, automatic de-stabilizer).
>
> Yang's ideas aren't just wrong. They're dangerous.
>
> ~ Jason Bessey
>
> On Monday, October 7, 2019, 12:22:55 PM EDT, Helen Wu 
> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>
> I just want to say that Andrew Yang is awesome.
>
> On Mon, Oct 7, 2019, 8:01 AM Henriques, Gregg - henriqgx 
> <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
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>     Hi TOK List,
>
>       I visited my brother Mark over the weekend and we were talking
>     about new political movements and he shared with me this
>     freakeconomics podcast by Andrew Yang, which I found to be of
>     interest:
>
>     https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__freakonomics.com_podcast_andrew-2Dyang_&d=DwIDaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=1fts_y1mT7jHfJGpuza1FszRs4f8dqXNSlwW9pVGw0g&s=EgamChHZh2ufJGWZHUgX8_W5n2NIx93i-c3pUE7kc-Y&e=
>     <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__freakonomics.com_podcast_andrew-2Dyang_&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=J5WqvYx-y9_Nl0ucd7CVHt3C-cLi8pNq9tVAvBXwyaQ&s=Se-OexG4oDoZXAAVDg2fAQGk2u1TFKQTcxwTLjt7__g&e=>,
>     so I thought I would share.
>
>     Best,
>     Gregg
>
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