Yep, very important. On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 6:31 AM Henriques, Gregg - henriqgx <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > HI Brent, > > I don’t think you are wrong in your sense that eliminative materialists > would embrace that. The primary thing about them is that they believe that > the language of “physical causation” will be the ultimate > ontological/scientific language. The ToK argues that if you look at science > what you see is a language of behaviors. Mechanistic materialism is only > one way of describing behavioral patterns. > > > > I will say it is confusing in that I think people really are arguing > different things with a good overall map. Consider Patricia Churchland was > one of the well-known eliminative materialists. I was at a conference and > we happened to have lunch and I showed her the ToK and she was “on board > with that”. My thinking right now is I need to help folks see why > “behavior” is the foundational frame for science instead of mechanistic > materialism and show why that makes a whole lot of difference in how we > think about the world from a scientific perspective. > > > > Thanks for your contributions. > > Best, > Gregg > > > > *From:* tree of knowledge system discussion < > [log in to unmask]> *On Behalf Of *Brent Allsop > *Sent:* Friday, November 1, 2019 10:17 PM > *To:* [log in to unmask] > *Subject:* Re: Blog on Behaviorism v Reductive Physicalism > > > > > > Interesting Piece. > > Being mostly only ever interested in qualia, I’ve always only thought of “eliminative > materialism” > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__en.wikipedia.org_wiki_Eliminative-5Fmaterialism&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=44T7ydXehQPIto_awJO-HTVoexhznghxe0YJBYEf2tw&s=sHerFmByeLTgrKfvayWwKtipPdwbvNoyxS5lPyYM3xI&e=> as > only someone like Dennett who states: “We don’t have qualia it just seems > like we do”. But all this stuff continues to open whole new worlds of > understanding. > > > > On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 10:33 AM Henriques, Gregg - henriqgx < > [log in to unmask]> wrote: > > Hi List, > > I put up a blog today on Tree of Knowledge’s behaviorist ontology versus > a reductive physicalism. > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.psychologytoday.com_us_blog_theory-2Dknowledge_201911_scientifically-2Dsay-2Dyes-2Dbehavior-2Dno-2Dphysicalism&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=uhqHVMhsTx927fdZr4-0-gavVbhS903cQBo0OWHhqqo&s=2vIn3ALNLKIgdDTltikWlW7neBHuH1pduw3cqjhgM3Q&e= > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.psychologytoday.com_us_blog_theory-2Dknowledge_201911_scientifically-2Dsay-2Dyes-2Dbehavior-2Dno-2Dphysicalism&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=44T7ydXehQPIto_awJO-HTVoexhznghxe0YJBYEf2tw&s=8cERwq-lAAq8tHzVwS1eZa1XcfVUmmNI53TQ8DMQspc&e=> > > > > Best, > > Gregg > > > > ___________________________________________ > > Gregg Henriques, Ph.D. > Professor > Department of Graduate Psychology > 216 Johnston Hall > MSC 7401 > James Madison University > Harrisonburg, VA 22807 > (540) 568-7857 (phone) > (540) 568-4747 (fax) > > > *Be that which enhances dignity and well-being with integrity.* > > Check out my Theory of Knowledge blog at Psychology Today at: > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.psychologytoday.com_blog_theory-2Dknowledge&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=uhqHVMhsTx927fdZr4-0-gavVbhS903cQBo0OWHhqqo&s=7rwSKlPcNR_Td9pbNxoXB1hI91fHzXXgofXTGYLqXMk&e= > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.psychologytoday.com_blog_theory-2Dknowledge&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=44T7ydXehQPIto_awJO-HTVoexhznghxe0YJBYEf2tw&s=f1KXxg6eErZsjSbUlSAi4j3SbUxM1MCQ5uqy4OoI6Z0&e=> > > > > Check out my webpage at: > > www.gregghenriques.com > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.gregghenriques.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=44T7ydXehQPIto_awJO-HTVoexhznghxe0YJBYEf2tw&s=VpFUCrgh5C7jBnT6EdaJc2cWW1AeN1Gm9cQyumTUuqM&e=> > > > > > > > > ############################ > > To unsubscribe from the TOK-SOCIETY-L list: write to: > mailto:[log in to unmask] or click the > following link: > http://listserv.jmu.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=TOK-SOCIETY-L&A=1 > > ############################ > > To unsubscribe from the TOK-SOCIETY-L list: write to: > mailto:[log in to unmask] or click the > following link: > http://listserv.jmu.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=TOK-SOCIETY-L&A=1 > ############################ > > To unsubscribe from the TOK-SOCIETY-L list: write to: > mailto:[log in to unmask] or click the > following link: > http://listserv.jmu.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=TOK-SOCIETY-L&A=1 > ############################ To unsubscribe from the TOK-SOCIETY-L list: write to: mailto:[log in to unmask] or click the following link: http://listserv.jmu.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=TOK-SOCIETY-L&A=1