Absolutely, dear Gregg! But why then mix "emotions" into that when "emotions" is the difference between an adult and an infantile approach to the challenge? When young men now are obsessed with "flow" I prefer to point out to them that the only proper way to get out of the narcissism paradigm altogether is to stop obsessing with emotional rewards. Period. You do what is right because it is right and not because what you "feel", stop pretending your reward system in itself is the truth. Otherwise "flow" is just another form of "kickseeking". So we're still stuck in the paradigm of the addict seeking the kick.Our contemporary culture today with zero longevity to relations. All genuinely spiritual journeys I know of are adamant to stop that search. So what is your full and deep response to that? To do the right thing because it is the right thing to do. Or to still worship the emotion of being in flow? America is getting close to 100,000 opiate abuse death cases a year. I wonder why... Big love Alexander Bard Den fre 14 feb. 2020 kl 00:49 skrev Henriques, Gregg - henriqgx < [log in to unmask]>: > Alexander, > > You do have a way of putting things đ. I think your (somewhat > justified) frustration with the modern state of America and its problem > with infantile narcissism may cause you to read the quotation differently > than I did. The âfeel lessâ in the quote, IMO, refers to the emptiness that > shallow achievement and consumerism breeds, in contrast to a deeper > grounding in being and an awareness of the virtues that guide our sense of > personhood. I certainly think that was the point Mike was making. > > > > Peace, > > G > > > > *From:* tree of knowledge system discussion < > [log in to unmask]> *On Behalf Of *Alexander Bard > *Sent:* Thursday, February 13, 2020 6:31 PM > *To:* [log in to unmask] > *Subject:* Re: Interesting critique of life in US > > > > Dear Mike > > > > As aa European I'm actually tired of Americans who feel too much and rely > on their feelings for absolutely everything. We get stuck in Californian > hippie talk if I'm brutally honest. > > I like John Wayne who as an ethical figure does what is right without > feeling a thing. Philosophers like Zizek and Badiou probably even jerk off > at his feet. > > So the problem is American Inidividualism going to into a supernova phase > as American hypernarcissism. As if John Wayne only defends himself and not > his community. > > We are all sick and tired of that and we know that the proper response is > concepts like "congregation" and "community", the nicest damn words in > American English. > > But am I the only one here sensing that "emotions" communicate a brat > stuck at his mother's tit rather than a properly adult American? > > Just asking. > > > > Best intentions > > Alexander Bard > > > > Den tors 13 feb. 2020 kl 20:12 skrev Michael Mascolo < > [log in to unmask]>: > > HI All: > > > > I found this article to be quite illuminative of our current condition. I > particularly found this quote to be very valuable: > > As the American physician and psychotherapist Alexander Lowen > acknowledged: âThe modern individual is committed to being successful, not > to being a person. He belongs rightly to the âaction generationâ whose > motto is âdo more but feel less.â > > I think that this really gets at the core of the issue â even more than > the idea that we are acquisitive commodity seekers. The idea that > contemporary capitalist society is organized to foster a sense of > acquisitiveness has always struck me as appropriate, but secondary to > something else. This is the something else that I think is more important. > > > The most powerful of all human motives, I think, are identity motives. > We are motivated to uphold images of who we want to be and, morally, who we > believe we should be. In the current version of our capitalist culture, > the images of âwho we want to beâ are defined by âsuccessâ. And success is > defined as status, wealth, attractiveness, capacity and means to act as one > pleases, etc. This is not a fulfilling conception of personhood. The goal, > it seems to me, is to seek to change minds and societal structures that > reflects our conceptions of what it means to be good persons, what it means > to have good relationships, and what it means to cultivate a society that > promotes human flourishing rather than merely human self-interest. This, I > think, is what will make us feel whole, rather than empty. > > > > My Very Best, > > > > Mike > > > > *Michael F. Mascolo, Ph.D.* > > Academic Director, Compass Program > > Professor, Department of Psychology > Merrimack College, North Andover, MA 01845 > 978.837.3503 (office) > 978.979.8745 (cell) > > > > *Blogs: **Values Matter* > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.psychologytoday.com_us_blog_values-2Dmatter&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=vuG1Ian-l09djamvwiHIvZ4jraX57BK5vTxdtQlIx5Q&s=xCZfkxTwo5r1C2dxhhhYYJ19FxqoOtzWxuObPbAqTFQ&e=> > > *Journal: Pedagogy and the Human Sciences > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__scholarworks.merrimack.edu_phs_&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=vuG1Ian-l09djamvwiHIvZ4jraX57BK5vTxdtQlIx5Q&s=0hLJFA6-LvdkJ6zKt8xryxvG9xuCTVtUQg91nVL-BmQ&e=>* > > *Coaching and Author Website: www.michaelmascolo.com > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.michaelmascolo.com_&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=vuG1Ian-l09djamvwiHIvZ4jraX57BK5vTxdtQlIx5Q&s=Kq-TVTrZUhDpcmjDtOTVzvJfSWeFbp8IzG-uRoP8Vn4&e=>* > > *Academia Home Page: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__merrimack.academia.edu_MichaelMascolo&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=n7miHJxTmxWJ0vL1iGmli4hkip5cJsKWhQkp0VqJ6Xk&s=DpcCBw0xeroJ5EszWsSfYG_sqzaFFfdW6FuKj50zgk8&e= > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__merrimack.academia.edu_MichaelMascolo&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=vuG1Ian-l09djamvwiHIvZ4jraX57BK5vTxdtQlIx5Q&s=VDusQOTSh3YHlDEEOc7Vopk31xZnpUuWnbOUZX1Et3o&e=>* > > > "*Things move, persons act.*" -- Kenneth Burke > "*If it's not worth doing, it's not worth doing well*." -- Donald Hebb > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 13, 2020, at 12:55 PM, Chance McDermott <[log in to unmask] > <[log in to unmask]>> wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > This article seems to well-describe the frustrated situation that many > experience. It is an absurd and awkward situation. > > > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 7:57 AM nysa71 < > [log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > > Gregg, > > The article is simply neoliberalism / late stage capitalism in a > nutshell. We need to stop trying to adapt to such a system, and start > shifting to a system that adapts to us. The current Democratic primary is a > perfect reflection of those two competing sentiments, with most candidates > (if not all but one of those candidates), a reflection (to varying degrees) > of the former sentiment. That simply will not --- and cannot --- do. It's > why I'm a Bernie guy, and couldn't care less about the rest of them. > > ~ Jason > > On Thursday, February 13, 2020, 07:04:07 AM EST, Henriques, Gregg - > henriqgx <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > > > > Hi TOK List, > > > > Someone recently shared this article with me. > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__medium.com_-40erikrittenberry_the-2Damerican-2Dlife-2Dis-2Dkilling-2Dyou-2D9e7e68135f4a&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=n7miHJxTmxWJ0vL1iGmli4hkip5cJsKWhQkp0VqJ6Xk&s=Eko1mxKE6nJPLWp8NnC8iWJOzOAa6HeYPaE4ju1d7xg&e= > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__medium.com_-40erikrittenberry_the-2Damerican-2Dlife-2Dis-2Dkilling-2Dyou-2D9e7e68135f4a&d=DwMCaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=_KIZTjZEJQVB-0U7q_Wm-hCzh85Y7h-9yCO9Xb9L3e4&s=tBAMaCvdycHDEXbBjUV3IdHZrc5qzSqjtUxvR76PPOo&e=> > > > > Would love to get reactions if folks have them. > > > > Best, > > Gregg > > > > ############################ > > To unsubscribe from the TOK-SOCIETY-L list: write to: > mailto:[log in to unmask] or click the > following link: > http://listserv.jmu.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=TOK-SOCIETY-L&A=1 > > ############################ > > To unsubscribe from the TOK-SOCIETY-L list: write to: > mailto:[log in to unmask] or click the > following link: > http://listserv.jmu.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=TOK-SOCIETY-L&A=1 > > ############################ > > To unsubscribe from the TOK-SOCIETY-L list: write to: > mailto:[log in to unmask] or click the > following link: > http://listserv.jmu.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=TOK-SOCIETY-L&A=1 > > > > ############################ > > To unsubscribe from the TOK-SOCIETY-L list: write to: > mailto:[log in to unmask] or click the > following link: > http://listserv.jmu.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=TOK-SOCIETY-L&A=1 > > ############################ > > To unsubscribe from the TOK-SOCIETY-L list: write to: > mailto:[log in to unmask] or click the > following link: > http://listserv.jmu.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=TOK-SOCIETY-L&A=1 > ############################ > > To unsubscribe from the TOK-SOCIETY-L list: write to: > mailto:[log in to unmask] or click the > following link: > http://listserv.jmu.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=TOK-SOCIETY-L&A=1 > ############################ To unsubscribe from the TOK-SOCIETY-L list: write to: mailto:[log in to unmask] or click the following link: http://listserv.jmu.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=TOK-SOCIETY-L&A=1