Hi Jason,

 

  To understand these issues, IMO, we really need a working theory of sex and gender and human nature/personality. To do that, you need to realize that one of the biggest errors is that people think of this in terms of two domains (i.e., biology versus culture or nature versus nurture). There are, in fact, THREE domains that need consideration, which are: 1) biophysiology (i.e., biological sex, which includes the basic architecture involving chromosomes, genitalia, hormones and the like corresponds more to Life); 2) evolved psychological architecture (i.e., the aggregate human nature differences between human masculine and feminine psychic energies, which corresponds more to Mind on the ToK, and is informed by Behavioral Investment Theory and the Matrix in the Unified Framework), and 3) socially constructed systems of justification that legitimize what boys/men and girls/women ought to be (i.e., the particular cultural theory/ideology of what gender is and should be corresponds more to Culture and framed by JUST in the UF).

 

  For Jung, animus and anima are evolved psychological natural archetypes of masculine and feminine. Specifically, he believes there was a dialectic between them; and that people have a dominant and counterbalancing force. Thus, for me, as a fairly typical male with a more masculine psychic architecture, I also have “anima”, which a feminine force that exists in dialectical tension with my more conscious masculine identity—the fact that I am a therapist who takes care of vulnerable people would be an example of my “anima”. Animus is the masculine side of a traditional feminine woman.  

 

  The issue then is: What are these evolved architectures? What gives them their force and how do we understand them in relationship to biophysiology and in relationship to the sociocultural construction of reality? That is a question I have given quite a bit of thought to and the Unified Framework offers, IMO, a pretty clear theory along these lines. That is, the larger architecture of the Unified Theory can help us with a theory of human sex-gender. The first thing it says is stop with the “biology versus society” dichotomy, and realize that we are talking about three domains of Life, Mind, and Culture as forces shaping the behaviors we are studying in either any particular individual or in aggregates of people (which, BTW, is too often confused).

 

  There are good reasons to believe that part of the architectural difference is that women will be more “feeling” and men more “thinking”. But first, let me move to the relational differences.  You brought up the Influence Matrix. This is key to understanding aspects of the evolved mental architectural differences between human males and females at the aggregate level of analysis (or collective unconscious). In the map provided by the Unified Framework, the Matrix is, indeed, connected to the human Experiential System. Specifically, it is an extension of the experiential system to the “process dimensions” of the relational system. That is, the Unified Framework argues that humans have a “relationship system” that grows out of the more basic experiential system that allows us to frame, track and navigate the self-other field/landscape that we are in. The Matrix maps a key part of that system, namely the process dimensions (I can explain more about what this means exactly).

 

  The Matrix plays a key role in understanding the evolved architecture of human male and female psyches. One of the big differences in the ways human male and human female architectures are organized pertains to the dynamic interplay of self-in-relation-to-other. In short, the human female (again at the aggregate level) is more relationally “other-oriented” in terms of dynamic process, whereas the human male is, relatively “self-oriented”. There are many reasons for this, but the most basic reason has to do with mothering versus fathering and the reproductive dynamics associated with being a human male v. female. It is important to realize that, as mammals, we have been mothers and fathers much longer than we have been humans, and being a mother is a fundamentally different set of relational problems than being a father. All of this sets the stage for understanding the evolved collective unconscious architectures associated with human male and female psychic energy tendencies at the pre-cultural, aggregate level of analysis.

 

I think I will end here for now. If folks want blogs on understanding gender from a unified framework approach, see attached list of blogs. In particular, I recommend the blogs on gender differences in religiosity, which is one of the great mysteries in gender psychology. I think the UF does a nice job resolving that and at least turning it from a mystery into a problem that makes sense at a number of levels.

 

Best,
Gregg

 

 

      

 

 

 

From: tree of knowledge system discussion <[log in to unmask]> On Behalf Of nysa71
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2020 10:33 PM
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Hi Gregg,

I like that diagram. It certainly is conducive to the spirit of the ToK that connections can be made between the ToK and both Freud and Jung.

You raise an interesting point about the Anima / Animus that I've thought about for awhile. Jung's conception of associating the two concepts with feminine/masculine, particularly in relation to transgender identity, raises some issues. Plus, Jung's thought here seems to arguably be a significant reflection of the gender/cultural biases of his time.

 He may have been better off making a connection with his "Thinking / Feeling" dichotomy that he elaborated on in Psychological Types

From data I've seen, there's no significant gendered distribution with his dichotomous traits except for the Thinking / Feeling traits --- that is, males tend to be "thinking types", and females tend to be "feeling types", but (of course) not always. (Whether the reason for this is biological, social conditioning, or some "mix" of both is a whole other issue, though I suspect it's a "mix").

So perhaps it would've made more sense (at least in the context of Jung's overall thought) to associate animus with thinking, and anima with feeling, thus "thinking types" would tend to be male (but not always) with a "feeling" anima, and "feeling types" would tend to be female (but not always) with a "thinking" animus. 

In this sense, it might also be easier to conceive of the anima./ animus as being ego-syntonic insofar that the anima/animus needs to be reintegrated with the ego. 

I'll end this with a question: isn't the Experiential Self essentially associated with the Influence Matrix?

~ Jason

 

On Saturday, February 22, 2020, 08:52:05 AM EST, Henriques, Gregg - henriqgx <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

 

 

Hi Jason,

  Thanks for this analysis. Also, I am happy to say that the blog did well. It is now most popular with over 12,000 hits in under 24 hours. In the all important new “attention economy” I am now winning and getting capital 😊…It also is a reminder that there is a difference between blogs I write for me (like understanding psychology’s metaphysical problems) and blogs I write for the audience 😊.

 

Also, here is a diagram that shows that I basically would agree with all you write here, with a few minor qualifications. For example, animus/anima may or may not be ego syntonic (think transgendered individuals). Same with the persona…perhaps we can say that it will feel like it is a persona when there is tension and a sense of the impression given being ego dystonic. But that would need some fleshing out. I often manage my impressions in very “ego syntonic” ways, if that makes sense.  

 

 

From: tree of knowledge system discussion <[log in to unmask]> On Behalf Of nysa71
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 10:59 AM
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Hi Gregg,

Nice blog!

As I read it, I think of how a Jungian 4-part model of the psyche works, as well:

Persona
Ego
Shadow
Anima/Animus

I think your tripartite model corresponds well with this:

Public Self  = Persona (which you explicitly stated)
Private Self = Ego (which I think you at least implied)                               
Experiential Self = Shadow + Anima/Animus

I think you implied the Shadow part of the Experiential Self with your statement, "...some times the dark parts of our selves 'leak out' in ways we are not aware of."

So the Public Self/Persona negotiates the tension between the Private Self/Ego and the social context, (there's some "splitting off" there).

But the Private Self/Ego negotiates the tension between Public Self/Persona and the Shadow (part of the Experiential Self), and the Shadow gets projected onto others via the Public Self / Persona: "...[Kathy] 
 has now 'split off' her feelings and projected them into the environment".

The Private Self / Ego is "split off" from the Anima/Animus (the other part of the Experiential Self), And the Shadow "blocks the two", thus it must be dealt with in order to stop projecting onto others and thus begin the process of reintegrating the two.

I would also add that the Persona and Ego are conscious, and the Shadow and Anima/Animus are unconscious, (which you basically alluded to) --- however, I would also say that the Ego & Anima/Animus are Ego syntonic, and the Persona & Shadow are Ego dystonic.

Thoughts?
~ Jason

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