Thanks for this perspective, Cory.
Best,
Gregg
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I strongly disagree that the bottom line is that “its” is not always necessary to emphasize equally with “we”, “I” “it” in such a perspectival framework. It's super ironic that you are dis-integrating it from the quadrant structure with the claim that its not always necessary, with a knowledge structure that is intended to be an ultimate expression of that very quadrant.
I have a hypothesis that the most crucial transformations for the preservation of your community and your model are likely to be found within this perspective. The reason is because by suppressing the perspective, the aspects of a model that exhibit it, prohibits perspectives that result in any perspectival transformation about itself. Without exterior collective perspective, one is incapable of gaining perspective with inter-objectivity to recognize how the very ideological framework enculturates them by the constraints of its system. This discourages perspectival orientations that would look at the model in the larger context in which it exists (by downplay and omittance), and encourages orientations that propagate ideals that fit its form, essentially resulting in a facade of unification because it does not serve the larger scope that goes beyond the model, it only serves the model itself, which by all accounts is just a flicker in the progress of human understanding.
Cory
The W I I Thrive frame is not solely or even primarily anchored in Integral, although we are, of course, aware of it. In addition, the W I I Thrive project is for a general community effort, which has, as its primary focus, a way to launch a platform that will enable folks to gain access to a supportive community that adopts an easy to understand philosophy (that is also grounded in a sophisticated framework) that shares effective psycho-technologies for flourishing in the Digital Age.
To see the vision logic of my point, see the attached pdf on the ToK Quadrants. For a more extended argument, attached is a talk I gave last fall. Bottom line is that, although Wilber makes a very good point and I am a fan of the quadrants, the “Its” is not always necessary to emphasize.
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Why do you omit the "its" quadrant and call it WII instead?
I am writing to say we are going to have a TOK Zoom meeting at 5:30 pm EST on Monday. Let me know if you are interested. We will be discussing the work that Zak Ali and I have been doing on W I I Thrive (FYI, W I I stands for We, I, It). Thrive translates into well-being mapped by the Nested Model. In essence, it is a movement to come together and foster authentic flourishing.
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