Thanks Gregg, Waldemar, it’s a pleasure to be part of this list. I hope those of you who have listened or watched some of the discussion below found value in it. I have appreciated much of the sharing in this community over the recent weeks. It strikes there are significant insights held by members here to be sourced and incorporated into a collective conduit for the deepening of questions and broader projects of mutual growth and learning. It seems more and more the case that the ethics and artfulness of generative communication—perhaps, a right relation of dialogical collective intelligence, or movement of understanding—is of paramount importance as we orient in this clearing.. joint point.. eye of the storm.. liminal.. pivot point.. etc. To that end I am particularly interested in helping to co-navigate such interactions. If such words spark a grounded interest I hope you will reach out and inquire further. And, otherwise, I look forward to participating in what ways present as appropriate in this list. Wishing you all very well, and thank you for the discussion. Tim Adalin > On 24 May 2020, at 2:21 am, Waldemar Schmidt <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > Welcome, Tim. > I’m already enjoying the interaction. > > Best regards, > > Waldemar > > Waldemar A Schmidt, PhD, MD > (Perseveret et Percipiunt) > 503.631.8044 > > Strive not to be a success, but rather to be of value. (A Einstein) > >> On May 23, 2020, at 5:34 AM, Henriques, Gregg - henriqgx <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: >> >> Dear TOK Society, >> >> I am delighted to have the opportunity to introduce Tim Adalin to the TOK Society. He is a philosopher who set up the Voiceclub (which is becoming the Voicecraft Collective). <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__voiceclub.com_about_&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=PMuAfJ1ojFEOx443HHGEejs_CL5NpHyYBsF6mxwZRGY&s=3VFBPM2tDFWSKFCXb6txUWsOZ1EUJKuxllZVWABB-m0&e=> I heard Tim have an exchange with John Vervaeke and then heard him interviewJordan Hall <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__voiceclub.com_e39-2Dmaking-2Dsense-2Dof-2Dthe-2Dcrisis-2Dupon-2Dus-2Dwith-2Djordan-2Dhall_&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=PMuAfJ1ojFEOx443HHGEejs_CL5NpHyYBsF6mxwZRGY&s=lnuK6_vrE_Uj6MuliShc1MuJMtRjpPlO6c7_QKnVWfI&e=>. I was struck that by that interview (so was Hall at times 😊), and could immediately tell Tim was the real deal when it came to understanding the leading edge of culture. We hooked up and did a podcast together and it was a blast. >> >> Our two-hour conversation is up on both YouTube: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__youtu.be_fEQwzird28w&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=MfUcMC7Gl0t7gKrg5_PKnycazSfOPJJyF5mf0kRjYCE&s=_02uCJKgoTuBG39k3aN4fx8EoZ8aJvq39Hnf9JVoNQI&e= <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__youtu.be_fEQwzird28w&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=PMuAfJ1ojFEOx443HHGEejs_CL5NpHyYBsF6mxwZRGY&s=5IJ0IapIP8UFcaf-meVtd9b5yYkv-yrodLSqANLQ8To&e=> and as a podcast: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__soundcloud.com_voiceclub-5Fpodcast_e44-2Dco-2Dcreation-2Dunderstanding-2Dand-2Dthe-2Dunification-2Dof-2Dpsychology-2Dwith-2Dgregg-2Dhenriques&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=MfUcMC7Gl0t7gKrg5_PKnycazSfOPJJyF5mf0kRjYCE&s=vIsC-16HFTMU62kH77c3TiMtyG7EV0NmqBS5lzL-Xm8&e= <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__soundcloud.com_voiceclub-5Fpodcast_e44-2Dco-2Dcreation-2Dunderstanding-2Dand-2Dthe-2Dunification-2Dof-2Dpsychology-2Dwith-2Dgregg-2Dhenriques&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=wjF8cZoiFchamTuxBdDEmw&m=7_aKIGwXHPUue90e7gAZ7CDl10-dkUBjSsUYlh2__P0&s=5T6w2AtvnF74LFsclmAIk7ZIAPdcJEGP2oatRzb1yao&e=>. Here is the description: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__voiceclub.com_co-2Dcreation-2Dunderstanding-2Dand-2Dthe-2Dunification-2Dof-2Dpsychology-2Dwith-2Dgregg-2Dhenriques-2Dtim-2Dadalin_&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=MfUcMC7Gl0t7gKrg5_PKnycazSfOPJJyF5mf0kRjYCE&s=7xt0F4_MYrYuXGb3Yz-lPrGlwRDs0MP7UfKRtJczZ0U&e= <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__voiceclub.com_co-2Dcreation-2Dunderstanding-2Dand-2Dthe-2Dunification-2Dof-2Dpsychology-2Dwith-2Dgregg-2Dhenriques-2Dtim-2Dadalin_&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=wjF8cZoiFchamTuxBdDEmw&m=7_aKIGwXHPUue90e7gAZ7CDl10-dkUBjSsUYlh2__P0&s=d2KNUrrbxL1E9owE5d4CPDErB1gLcnXg6rtxmnp2kqQ&e=>. >> >> Here are the waypoints: >> What is going on, how do you make sense of life in this moment? >> How the lens of clinical psychology and metaphysics informs Gregg's intuitive sense of this moment and the impact on people's lives >> The hopefulness of a more coherent metaphysics in this time of kairos >> Connecting the heart and mind in right relationship through diologos >> Movements of understanding >> Fragmentation >> How do we invite participation in movements of understanding >> The problem with present institutions >> The importance of creating meta-cognitive awareness of this game that we're playing >> Self-knowledge and the awareness of frame-making >> How can we create frames that dignify the participatory capacity of all? >> Integrated pluralism - a metamodern principle as synthesis of modernism and postmodernism >> Meta-cultural values >> Dignity, Wellbeing, Integrity >> Relating to our own dissonance >> The problems of psychology >> Assimilating the value of behaviourism and Skinner >> Nervous system as an investment value system, behaviour systems as an energy economic system >> Relational value and social influence >> Transformation and informational interface between mediums >> How levels of behavioural complexity interface >> Integrating perspectives in the study of behaviour from the level of the nervous system up >> Phenomenal consciousness and epistemic / ontological gaps >> Relating back to the crises of our time and this time between worlds >> The Tree of Knowledge as an unfolding wave of behavioural complexity >> Joint points of transformation and the 5th joint point in the 21st century >> A nod to meta-reality and the mystical >> Where to from here >> CALM - MO a framework for understanding psychological mindfulness >> People mentioned >> >> Jordan Hall, Nora Bateson, John Vervaeke, Zak Stein, Jordan Peterson, Kant, Carl Rogers, B.F. Skinner, Heidegger, Marshall McLuhan, E.O. Wilson, Leibniz, Wittgenstein, Roy Bhaskar, Daniel Schmachtenberger, Aristotle, Yuval Noah Harari, Jean-Paul Sartre >> Many thanks to Tim for the invitation and great interview. >> Tim, please keep us posted about developments on the Voicecraft Collective and other considerations you have about the world we are in. >> Best, >> Gregg >> >> ___________________________________________ >> Gregg Henriques, Ph.D. >> Professor >> Department of Graduate Psychology >> 216 Johnston Hall >> MSC 7401 >> James Madison University >> Harrisonburg, VA 22807 >> (540) 568-7857 (phone) >> (540) 568-4747 (fax) >> >> Be that which enhances dignity and well-being with integrity. >> >> Check out my Theory of Knowledge blog at Psychology Today at: >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.psychologytoday.com_blog_theory-2Dknowledge&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=MfUcMC7Gl0t7gKrg5_PKnycazSfOPJJyF5mf0kRjYCE&s=u2gtruURva1rW3q9_7uzSO_Sp0b6yViBZesS7cPs_W8&e= <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.psychologytoday.com_blog_theory-2Dknowledge&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=PMuAfJ1ojFEOx443HHGEejs_CL5NpHyYBsF6mxwZRGY&s=o3HTfzyK0bFBOeBBdUAZQbowHECdfTISmre3R0YMZ1s&e=> >> >> Check out my webpage at: >> www.gregghenriques.com <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.gregghenriques.com_&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=PMuAfJ1ojFEOx443HHGEejs_CL5NpHyYBsF6mxwZRGY&s=Q7_8l2-HbSd1HGmQ0Uumhoe5PT88yvcRFMla2r2FHZc&e=> >> >> >> >> >> ############################ >> To unsubscribe from the TOK-SOCIETY-L list: write to: mailto:[log in to unmask] <mailto:mailto:[log in to unmask]> or click the following link: http://listserv.jmu.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=TOK-SOCIETY-L&A=1 <http://listserv.jmu.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=TOK-SOCIETY-L&A=1> > ############################ > To unsubscribe from the TOK-SOCIETY-L list: write to: mailto:[log in to unmask] <mailto:mailto:[log in to unmask]> or click the following link: http://listserv.jmu.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=TOK-SOCIETY-L&A=1 <http://listserv.jmu.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=TOK-SOCIETY-L&A=1> ############################ To unsubscribe from the TOK-SOCIETY-L list: write to: mailto:[log in to unmask] or click the following link: http://listserv.jmu.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=TOK-SOCIETY-L&A=1