Hi Jamie, Would you mind if I shared this post with my new wife Lisa? I know it's a closed group, but she really perked up when I mentioned it - you all are so cool! She's like a walking dictionary ;) Thanks, Lonny Dr. Lonny Douglas Meinecke https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__lmeinecke.com&d=DwIBaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=j9aFHeYo8jRQRtqdxCyHrk52yFZwHQS__zju0ahvyTY&s=7Wt5hciNYxaLfWHn_Y6oi0IwbbGdF0KwvcWrrH9hWis&e= "Comparison is the thief of joy" (Theodore Roosevelt) On Wed, Jun 3, 2020, 7:48 PM Jamie D <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Some people in Kinesiology claim you can measure the "truth" of a > statement by measuring the strength of your muscles when hearing it. No > surprise there's a lot of controversy about this. This is a discussion > about what manner of "true" might be the case. > > I'm interested in finding out which permutation develops energy as not > just a solution to depression, but perhaps achieving higher levels of > "vibration" or inner freedom than recognized as normal. > > I was meditating in Self-Enquiry recently, observing how various thoughts > trigger various changes in the flow of energy within my body, and noticing > how much of my thinking "sucks" or "denies" energy from my voluntary > muscles (I wonder if that's how the term "suck" came to be). One can see > how this connects to *behavioral shutdown*, depression, and low > self-esteem. > > Clearly the body will support some thoughts and actions and not others, > and I believe this has everything to do with the most interesting stories > and examples of human nature: > *how revenge is a bad idea, > *why some say those who *believe *the most will always win, > *how finding God and repentance provides new life, > *how talking to God or your self/subconscious/body in prayer causes subtle > feelings of change that could emerge later into radically different > behaviors. > > I'm reminded to really check my intentions. I currently think that the > energy behind a simple intention, say to win a game of poker, can be > refracted into many other intentions based on how the poker game is played, > and very little is premeditated. A person can set out to play the game, > hoping to win, but in a manner that necessarily translates into other > intentions and emotions like anger, humiliation, etc. > > Joe Rogan talked about how terrible it is to lose a big fight. Why MUST > that be the case? Is it not possible to invest just as much energy into > winning, without caring if you lose, in order to live wisely? > > And if I try to live that way, peers will often presume and impose such > frames upon you, requiring some will of mind to resist the "curses". > > Another question is: *can the body be wrong? Can emotions be wrong? * Can > trauma cause someone to feel shame for having thoughts that go against > abusers, or later, against genuine lies, that another might feel elated and > victorious as solutions to their problems? The former type of person should > be enraged at their peers for allowing them to be so duped! How is that > made right? > > Life imposes all sorts of conflicts where people have to decide if they > are more deserving than another, and I don't think the answer is to put > others before yourself every time with anyone. But is it to love yourself > before all else? > Napolean once said, "I love nobody" and seems not to have been depressed > much at all. > > Anyway, the body/subconscious clearly decide what you actually believe, > and while you can negotiate with them, they may require a certain logical > coherence - maybe a kind of logic yet to be written. > > I'd like to see the experiments on epistemic kinesiology (if that's even > been coined). it fits with *behavioral investment theory BIT,* and the > concept of *body budget, and withdrawal. * > > I look forward to connecting the dots further. > > > -- > -Jamie > ############################ > > To unsubscribe from the TOK-SOCIETY-L list: write to: > mailto:[log in to unmask] or click the > following link: > http://listserv.jmu.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=TOK-SOCIETY-L&A=1 > ############################ To unsubscribe from the TOK-SOCIETY-L list: write to: mailto:[log in to unmask] or click the following link: http://listserv.jmu.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=TOK-SOCIETY-L&A=1