Absolutely, no problem.

On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 6:03 AM Lonny Meinecke <[log in to unmask]>
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> Hi Jamie,
> Would you mind if I shared this post with my new wife Lisa? I know it's a
> closed group, but she really perked up when I mentioned it - you all are so
> cool! She's like a walking dictionary ;)
>
> Thanks,
> Lonny
>
>
> Dr. Lonny Douglas Meinecke
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> "Comparison is the thief of joy" (Theodore Roosevelt)
>
> On Wed, Jun 3, 2020, 7:48 PM Jamie D <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> Some people in Kinesiology claim you can measure the "truth" of a
>> statement by measuring the strength of your muscles when hearing it. No
>> surprise there's a lot of controversy about this. This is a discussion
>> about what manner of "true" might be the case.
>>
>> I'm interested in finding out which permutation develops energy as not
>> just a solution to depression, but perhaps achieving higher levels of
>> "vibration" or inner freedom than recognized as normal.
>>
>> I was meditating in Self-Enquiry recently, observing how various thoughts
>> trigger various changes in the flow of energy within my body, and noticing
>> how much of my thinking "sucks" or "denies" energy from my voluntary
>> muscles (I wonder if that's how the term "suck" came to be). One can see
>> how this connects to *behavioral shutdown*, depression, and low
>> self-esteem.
>>
>> Clearly the body will support some thoughts and actions and not others,
>> and I believe this has everything to do with the most interesting stories
>> and examples of human nature:
>> *how revenge is a bad idea,
>> *why some say those who *believe *the most will always win,
>> *how finding God and repentance provides new life,
>> *how talking to God or your self/subconscious/body in prayer causes
>> subtle feelings of change that could emerge later into radically different
>> behaviors.
>>
>> I'm reminded to really check my intentions. I currently think that the
>> energy behind a simple intention, say to win a game of poker, can be
>> refracted into many other intentions based on how the poker game is played,
>> and very little is premeditated. A person can set out to play the game,
>> hoping to win, but in a manner that necessarily translates into other
>> intentions and emotions like anger, humiliation, etc.
>>
>> Joe Rogan talked about how terrible it is to lose a big fight. Why MUST
>> that be the case? Is it not possible to invest just as much energy into
>> winning, without caring if you lose, in order to live wisely?
>>
>> And if I try to live that way, peers will often presume and impose such
>> frames upon you, requiring some will of mind to resist the "curses".
>>
>> Another question is: *can the body be wrong? Can emotions be wrong? *
>> Can trauma cause someone to feel shame for having thoughts that go against
>> abusers, or later, against genuine lies, that another might feel elated and
>> victorious as solutions to their problems? The former type of person should
>> be enraged at their peers for allowing them to be so duped! How is that
>> made right?
>>
>> Life imposes all sorts of conflicts where people have to decide if they
>> are more deserving than another, and I don't think the answer is to put
>> others before yourself every time with anyone. But is it to love yourself
>> before all else?
>> Napolean once said, "I love nobody" and seems not to have been depressed
>> much at all.
>>
>> Anyway, the body/subconscious clearly decide what you actually believe,
>> and while you can negotiate with them, they may require a certain logical
>> coherence - maybe a kind of logic yet to be written.
>>
>> I'd like to see the experiments on epistemic kinesiology (if that's even
>> been coined). it fits with *behavioral investment theory BIT,* and the
>> concept of *body budget, and withdrawal. *
>>
>> I look forward to connecting the dots further.
>>
>>
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