Absolutely, Gregg. That would be is-ness. I had the same thoughts as Peter about consciousness without a body, and Deepak on the fact that the title is a little misleading. But my biggest take away was that consciousness (as you’re experiencing it, pre-interpretation/analysis) is the only thing that can’t be delusion (because delusion requires misinterpreting). I think this is really important for more humans to understand and have as a skill. On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 10:55 AM Deepak Loomba <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Colleagues, > > > Frankly, the Sam Harris clip is like sufi music, nirvana - > > entertainment. Looked into it slow motion, but could not find the > > answer to the million dollar question of how consciousness arose > > from matter. Other than the fact that the title, "consciousness > > arose from matter" itself holds the presumption that consciousness > > is material. While the video promised to tell how. > > > > > TY > > > DL > > > > > > > > > > On 9/21/2020 7:02 PM, Henriques, Gregg > > - henriqgx wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Folks, > > > I thought this 6 minute clip on > > consciousness was worthwhile: > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.youtube.com_watch-3Fv-3DLpaDlIlqygE&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=uyXianFGKF4HZ8ek1X4zI_HbTPkT9vgWlFtTFvfqGqc&s=s4eIYWkPP7khfLrAUZ2jbmorLoMs7GebPmHmKnCbnwg&e= > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.youtube.com_watch-3Fv-3DLpaDlIlqygE&d=DwMD-g&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=uoPh39Cx0R40-jO6e0GYKVGfGmYd2qFDni4hgMU1cUM&s=r5tpbIWKShLHPAxouMh-jrBs5kA0MMa2t128O26UqR0&e=> > > > > > > Of course, with the BM3 solution, we can > > make significant advances in the “descriptive metaphysical > > system” that surrounds this set of claims. > > > > > > Also, I was thinking it might be helpful > > to point out how I would frame his point about consciousness > > being the only thing we can know for certain. The UTOK would > > say that a consciousness event is the intersection of the > > ontic reality of being, epistemology, and ontology. That is, > > whatever you are experiencing is real in-and-of-itself, is the > > product of a witnessing experiencing functioning that is an > > ontological fundamental reality. > > > > > > > I think Rob Scott might put it as the > > moment of “is-ness”. Is that fair, Rob? > > > > > > Best, > > > Gregg > > > > > > ___________________________________________ > > > Gregg Henriques, Ph.D. > > > Professor > > > Department of Graduate Psychology > > > 216 Johnston Hall > > > MSC 7401 > > > James Madison University > > > Harrisonburg, VA 22807 > > > (540) 568-7857 (phone) > > > (540) 568-4747 (fax) > > > > > > > > *Be that which enhances dignity and well-being with integrity.* > > > Check out the Unified Theory Of Knowledge > > homepage at: > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.unifiedtheoryofknowledge.org_&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=uyXianFGKF4HZ8ek1X4zI_HbTPkT9vgWlFtTFvfqGqc&s=PhqKZS0SSyrNQ3tH2Uh5d3QbICZkIM8KKi_ubG5W-tU&e= > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.unifiedtheoryofknowledge.org_&d=DwMD-g&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=uoPh39Cx0R40-jO6e0GYKVGfGmYd2qFDni4hgMU1cUM&s=4sVbClHHQ_oqFgHbrq-aD1KDJQl7BJe6wsMbXtjJNuM&e=> > > > > > > > > ############################ > > > > To unsubscribe from the TOK-SOCIETY-L list: > > write to: mailto:[log in to unmask] > > or click the following link: > > http://listserv.jmu.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=TOK-SOCIETY-L&A=1 > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > ############################ > > > > To unsubscribe from the TOK-SOCIETY-L list: > > write to: mailto:[log in to unmask] > > or click the following link: > > http://listserv.jmu.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=TOK-SOCIETY-L&A=1 > > ############################ To unsubscribe from the TOK-SOCIETY-L list: write to: mailto:[log in to unmask] or click the following link: http://listserv.jmu.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=TOK-SOCIETY-L&A=1