Rob, et.al.,

Is not delusional the absence of reflective? 

I remember that brain surgeon who died visited heaven and then got undead again wrote in his book about the experience that he knows it was real because it was the most real thing he ever experienced. Unfortunately for him, that is exactly the definition of a delusion, no?

We won’t bother getting into the necessary and unprecedented errors of St Peter to allow him a peek. 

Respectfully yours,

Peter

Sent from where I’m being. 

On Sep 21, 2020, at 11:19 AM, Rob Scott <[log in to unmask]> wrote:



Absolutely, Gregg. That would be is-ness. 

I had the same thoughts as Peter about consciousness without a body, and Deepak on the fact that the title is a little misleading. 

But my biggest take away was that consciousness (as you’re experiencing it, pre-interpretation/analysis) is the only thing that can’t be delusion (because delusion requires misinterpreting). 

I think this is really important for more humans to understand and have as a skill.

On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 10:55 AM Deepak Loomba <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Colleagues,

Frankly, the Sam Harris clip is like sufi music, nirvana -

entertainment. Looked into it slow motion, but could not find the

answer to the million dollar question of how consciousness arose

from matter. Other than the fact that the title, "consciousness

arose from matter" itself holds the presumption that consciousness

is material. While the video promised to tell how.

TY


DL

On 9/21/2020 7:02 PM, Henriques, Gregg

- henriqgx wrote:

Hi Folks,

  I thought this 6 minute clip on

consciousness was worthwhile:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpaDlIlqygE

 

  Of course, with the BM3 solution, we can

make significant advances in the “descriptive metaphysical

system” that surrounds this set of claims.

 

  Also, I was thinking it might be helpful

to point out how I would frame his point about consciousness

being the only thing we can know for certain. The UTOK would

say that a consciousness event is the intersection of the

ontic reality of being, epistemology, and ontology. That is,

whatever you are experiencing is real in-and-of-itself, is the

product of a witnessing experiencing functioning that is an

ontological fundamental reality.

 

  I think Rob Scott might put it as the

moment of “is-ness”.  Is that fair, Rob?

Best,


Gregg

 

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