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Beautifully stated, James

On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 1:20 AM Tania de Jong <[log in to unmask]>
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> *Sent:* Wednesday, 23 September 2020 3:15 PM
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> *Subject:* Re: Reevaluating Beliefs
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> Tania,
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> Millions of people are distressed, living in fear.  If we have insights in
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> our societies' processes, mechanisms, and institutions are designed or
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> if we have insights of that type that hold promise to restore hope,
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> ditch the GNP as a measure of 'success', end the need for anyone to seek
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> Replace all of the above with your own vision of "best of all *possible*
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> The arbitrariness of the current form of society, when examined closely
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> an expanded mind, is risible.  Do we really confer authority and defer
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> white coats?  I've seen Shaman blow tobacco smoke in the ears of the sick,
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> of concerned loved ones watching and waiting for signs the child will
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> We can explore with each other and with viewers how to use insight to
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> It begins I think with understanding that the protons and neutrons we
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> we eat our on loan, and that when we return them, slightly used, some
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> inherit them; that even if we're not ok, we are, truly, completely
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> one in the whole; happy or sad, in pain or in pleasure.  The destruction
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> sameness is matched only by that from greed; we are, in the end, all
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> consciousness into form with the hope that others' experiences might be
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> double-digit math in my head.  I never try to hide the former, and am only
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> This should be fun...
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> On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 10:00 PM Tania de Jong <[log in to unmask]>
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> And love to understand more what this question refers to?
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> Warmly Tania
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> *From:* tree of knowledge system discussion <
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> *On Behalf Of *James Lyons-Weiler
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> *Sent:* Wednesday, 23 September 2020 8:48 AM
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> *Subject:* Re: Reevaluating Beliefs
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> Alas, but we are in the trenches. Our degrees do not protect us from the
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> In fact, history has shown us that they make us expendable, or worse: a
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> Hey Leland, Having been on both sides of the equation, I can say change is
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> Intrigued by questions that were raised when I presented Seeking Real Good
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> beliefs. What I am still curious to understand is the triggers and
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> political parties, what triggers the shift from “love you forever” to
> “divorce you now”, why did some people shift from never Trump to Trump
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