Thank you so much:) agreed
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Sent: Wednesday, 23 September 2020 3:15 PM
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Tania,
Thanks for the ping.
Millions of people are distressed, living in fear. If we have insights in how to capture the
over-swing effect of so-called "cancel culture", and help steady ourselves toward a new future in which
our societies' processes, mechanisms, and institutions are designed or allowed to
self-organize in ways that allow us to shake off the worst of our collective bad habits...
if we have insights of that type that hold promise to restore hope, inspire economies of care,
ditch the GNP as a measure of 'success', end the need for anyone to seek social justice, we should
share them.
Replace all of the above with your own vision of "best of all possible worlds", and let's engage.
The arbitrariness of the current form of society, when examined closely with
an expanded mind, is risible. Do we really confer authority and defer authority to people who wear
white coats? I've seen Shaman blow tobacco smoke in the ears of the sick, with the same circle
of concerned loved ones watching and waiting for signs the child will recover... the same expressions
in the waiting room, the same deference for authority.
We can explore with each other and with viewers how to use insight to improve the future.
It begins I think with understanding that the protons and neutrons we inherit from the living things
we eat our on loan, and that when we return them, slightly used, some other millions of life forms will
inherit them; that even if we're not ok, we are, truly, completely profoundly, "ok" anyway. We are
one in the whole; happy or sad, in pain or in pleasure. The destruction of peace via the struggle for
sameness is matched only by that from greed; we are, in the end, all wormfood pitching bits of our
consciousness into form with the hope that others' experiences might be filled with less destruction
and more peace.
That means accepting ourselves as perfect in our imperfections. I look and sound angry when I reach a self-
righteousness over how badly others have distorted Science, but I also look angry when I do
double-digit math in my head. I never try to hide the former, and am only aware of the latter when
it's pointed out to me.
This should be fun...
On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 10:00 PM Tania de Jong <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Very interesting
And love to understand more what this question refers to?
Dare we provide the public with a glimpse of the possible, however unlikely?
Warmly Tania
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From: tree of knowledge system discussion <[log in to unmask]> On Behalf Of James Lyons-Weiler
Sent: Wednesday, 23 September 2020 8:48 AM
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Subject: Re: Reevaluating Beliefs
Eric,
Ah, we have found our stoic!
Alas, but we are in the trenches. Our degrees do not protect us from the gravity waves that are
about to gyrate the west into near oblivion.
In fact, history has shown us that they make us expendable, or worse: a threat.
Dare we provide the public with a glimpse of the possible, however unlikely?
Might we not provide a moment's peace and resonate back and dampen the gravity waves?
There is power in perspective. It'd be a shame for the best of all possible worlds to not be given a
fair hearing.
Cheers,
JLW
On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 6:16 PM easalien <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Hey Leland, Having been on both sides of the equation, I can say change is often a response to trauma, real or perceived. It’s a form of adaptive behavior driven by adverse circumstances. Very rarely do comfortable people change.
Most of you I’m sure have heard of PTSD. The other side of that is Post-Traumatic Growth. This article sums it up nicely:
With the clusterf*ck that is 2020, cherished beliefs are challenged and people are retreating into entrenched ideologies or opening up to the truth, which must be experienced a posteriori. Otherwise, it’s like a scholar “explaining” war to a veteran. It rings hollow.
Personally, abandoning unverified belief in exchange for verifiable truth has brought a remarkable sense of balance. It’s taught me empathy and gratitude as well as peace with uncertainty. With the world as it is, maybe we need to take our philosophy and let it go.
Eric S.
On Thursday, September 17, 2020, Leland Beaumont <[log in to unmask]> wrote:ToK Forum Members,
Intrigued by questions that were raised when I presented Seeking Real Good to this forum, I am researching the topic of “Reexamining Beliefs”. I have recently read several books that pertain to forming beliefs and defending long-held beliefs. What I am still curious to understand is the triggers and introspective processes that result in people changing deeply held beliefs. For example, why do some people reflect on their religious beliefs and become non-theists? Why do people switch political parties, what triggers the shift from “love you forever” to “divorce you now”, why did some people shift from never Trump to Trump forever while Michael Cohen turned against him? Why do some people leave cults and others double down? What attracts people toward conspiracy theories and then what changes that causes people to abandon those theories?
I would like to be able to describe a process each of us would be motivated to use to reexamine our beliefs and progress toward true beliefs.
I will appreciate it if you can recommend reliable references on this topic.
Thanks!
Lee Beaumont
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