đ. The key is to realize that we need to identify the (a) epistemological elements of behavior, which relate to science and its position as an independent observer from the outside. That is, it is the position of the measurer that can then be confirmed in a reliable way. This means that there is an âepistemological gapâ between the interior/phenomenological/first person and exterior/behavioral/third person view. Ken Wilber is a good source for lots of writing on seeing the interior-exterior epistemological divide (e.g., see here<https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/theory-knowledge/201510/positioning-our-knowledge-in-four-quadrants>). Then there is the general versus specific ontological distinction between whether we are referring to behavior in general or a particular kind of behavior. It is the science of physics that deals with behavior in general. Other special science deal with behavior in particular. Imagine three cats falling out of a tree. A dead cat falls and bouncesâthat is explained as physical behavior via gravity. An anesthetized cat also falls and bounces, but the metabolism that keeps it alive so is physiological behavior. The cat that lands on its feet and takes off, that is âmental behaviorâ. The overt activity of the animal as a whole. That activity is coordinated/regulated by the neuro-information messaging systems, what I call âneurocognitive processingâ. What this gives is a neurocognitive account of mental behavior (the cat taking off) which is different from living/biophysiological behavioral processes of matter/physical behavioral processes. The Tree of Knowledge maps the logical relations and shows why basic/animal/comparative psychology should be thought of as the science of mental behavior and how we can finally move past the mental versus behavioral split that is a key part of the problem of psychology. For a paper-long treatment on this argument, see attached. Best, Gregg From: tree of knowledge system discussion <[log in to unmask]> On Behalf Of Tom Sylvest Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2020 1:02 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Cognitivism versus behaviorism I am far from being a neural scientist. I have imagined that a neuron or cluster of them can get triggered by another one or cluster and influence the resulting cognitions that manifests as an observable behavior outside the mind. For instance, out of the corner of my eye I see what I think is a spider firing off a series of interactions with neurons in the memory centers whipping around through my emotional centers and slamming into some gray stuff in my cortex to select some appropriate response. Thatâs a lot of behavior happening. Collectively I could easily label that âmental behavior.â Then I laugh, realize it was a strand of hair caught in my reading glasses, and decide I had better get a hair cut. Lots of behavior. Fun stuff to think about. Tom Tom Sylvest [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> 225-287-4334 [cid:image001.png@01D68061.5E190790] On Sep 1, 2020, at 11:34 AM, Henriques, Gregg - henriqgx <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: I agree with you both that it is a very complicated issue. The Unified Theory starts with the assertion that the split is based on a faulty âonto-epistemologyâ that stems from the way mind and matter (and science) is framed by the Enlightenment. Animals behaving as whole entities that produce a functional effect on the animal environment relationship is a particular KIND of behavior, that the Unified Theory identifies as âmental behaviorâ. Thus, Hector I will go one further. It is not mental versus behavioral or even mental and behavioral, but it is mental behavior đ. Best, G From: tree of knowledge system discussion <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> On Behalf Of Tom Sylvest Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2020 11:43 AM To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Cognitivism versus behaviorism Agree Hector! Iâm always worried about the cock-sure. Things seem a lot squishier the older I get. LOL My best Tom On Sep 1, 2020, at 10:39 AM, HĂ©ctor FernĂĄndez Ălvarez <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: Hi Gregg: I think it's better to speak (and to think on) about the mentalist and the behavioral views instead of versus. And I think this is absolutely a very complex issue!! Thanks for the papel, HĂ©ctor. El mar., 1 sept. 2020 a las 8:17, Henriques, Gregg - henriqgx (<[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>) escribiĂł: Hi TOK Folks, As everyone knows, I rail on and on about the problem of psychology. If you want to glance at a review of one of the big problems the field faces, which is the mentalist (or cognitivist) versus behavioral views, see here. The article is a great example of how tangled everyoneâs metaphysics is on this issue. It really is laughable once you have the solution and are on the outside looking in and seeing how everyone else is trapped in metaphysical hall of mirrors. Peace, G ___________________________________________ Gregg Henriques, Ph.D. Professor Department of Graduate Psychology 216 Johnston Hall MSC 7401 James Madison University Harrisonburg, VA 22807 (540) 568-7857 (phone) (540) 568-4747 (fax) Be that which enhances dignity and well-being with integrity. 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