Jakub,

Thank you for writing you piece "... Hacking the deep code of metaculture"

I enjoyed it very much.

I tend to work hard to arrange relations among working pieces; Gregg has
generously given
me ToK101 and ToK102 lectures on my podcast "Unbreaking Science".

I'm fascinated by the language you propose and would like to discuss those
terms
with you soon, perhaps as soon as today.  Especially "syngesting" which is
key to Aikido philosophy
and explains my productivity: turning pain (negative energy) into positive
means explosive
productivity; channeling the energy into good breaks the chain of abuse...

But, for general discussion, below, I am not putting Jakub on the spot, I'm
not nitpicking, I'm drilling
down into the DNA of Civium ideas below...

Do We have a Detector for the Next Emergence?
Feel Free to Consider this a Rest Stop on Your Journey...

The relations on metaculture and culture are expressed (Jakub) in this form:

*"the emergence of metaculture could be in fact the rise of a culture
proper".*

Let's try to answer the implied question.

There may be a scale of change factor at play in the evolving language
worth pausing on for a moment that might give Civium thinkers some fodder.

Let's assume "could be" equals "is" for this exercise, and that
"metaculture"
is a Very Important And Large emergence from culture (VIAL).

*"the emergence of metaculture is the rise of a culture (of a specific
type)".*

which implies the general relation

"the emergence of metaculture is the rise of culture".

This implies

"the VIAL emergence we can (expect or build) from culture is metaculture"

In the ToK model,  we have examples of what look like what we all recognize
(thinking of you, Deepak) very important and large emergences (Life from
Matter, Mind from Life, Culture from Mind) ...

So let's try the Civium-like arrangement of relations (well, potential
relations)...

"the emergence of Life is the rise of Matter"
"the emergence of Mind is the rise of Life"
"the emergence of Mind is the rise of Culture"

These only work toward enlightenment from an evolutionary standpoint if we
consider all of the
emergences from Matter that did not survive as well that were non-Life
(trillions of self-replicating
experiments by nature, ours stable enough to last billions of years)

We should keep in mind all of emergences from Life that were not Mind
(billions of biological "consciousness-like" experiments).

We should keep in mind all of emergences from Mind that were not Culture
(billions of billions of relations, ideas).

*Is MetaCulture the VIAL to expect from Culture?*

Let's look back at the VIALs again that ToK arranged for us:

"the VIAL emergence that occured from Matter is Life"
"the VIAL emergence that occurred from Life is Mind"
"the VIAL emergence that occured from Mind is Culture"

it's fair to ask

"is the VIAL emergence that will occur from Culture 'Metaculture'?"

This is what I was thinking whilst writing to Deepak... can we begin to
imagine what the next emergence would be?

Can Matter before Life imagine Life?  (my contemplation is 'no')
Can Life before Mind imagine Mind? (my contemplation is 'no)
Can Mind before Culture imagine Culture? (my contemplation is 'yes')

And of course

Can Culture before Metaculture imagine Metaculture? ________________ ?

This brings us to: Will the next emergence "be made" or will it "occur"?

If there is an emergence to be made, perhaps "Culture" is one of the
millions of
emergences or arrangements of Mind that won't survive.  The race is not
over.

Perhaps a useful contemplation is whether Culture is the place for the next
VIAL emergence,
or is the next VIAL emergence something other than what we could even call
"Culture".

Perhaps culture is a detour.  Or a stepping stone.  Or one of many parts
that when combined create an emergence.  If for example the machine-human
fusion
takes place, will culture matter?

Note that I'm not asking 'should'.... we can all imagine arrangements of
parts where
culture as we know it becomes a quaint distant memory... Panopticon-like
arrangements (brings to
mind the modern monastaries which Jakub mentions.

Like cavemen who might call a flashlight as "sun stick",  we could do well
to contemplate:

"Is 'Culture' just one of many emergences from Life"

or is it an overgeneralization in this context?  Do we want or need (or are
we entitled to) be restricted to consider any emergence that comes from >2
minds to be considered "Culture"?

If so, do we have a suitable detector for the next emergence?  Separate
from our views of how the world might be arranged to suit living organisms
in a sustainable manner, with kindness and not via some top-down
dictatorship, I hope these thoughts are worth contemplation... as
prescribed by Winnie the Pooh.. a long, hard think.








On Tue, Jul 21, 2020, 6:22 AM Henriques, Gregg - henriqgx <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:

> Cory,
>
> Nice statement of the problem we must address…
>
> G
>
>
>
> Jim,
>
>   Here are some of links to some of the folks I mentioned who I believe
> operate at a high level of hierarchical complexity:
>
>
>
> Jordan Hall
>
>   Deep Code on Rebel Wisdom <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.youtube.com_watch-3Fv-3D-5Fj3cCrpXERg&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=oWfadIFQ8zu2_08wI9JDz62b9tjebjZs00pHIX3NqRs&s=0YjRKAPKkLoMWJCufIWfEt79LUYqF-U2jHpfZ3maK5I&e= >
>
>   On the Blue Church
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__medium.com_deep-2Dcode_understanding-2Dthe-2Dblue-2Dchurch-2De4781b2bd9b5&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=oWfadIFQ8zu2_08wI9JDz62b9tjebjZs00pHIX3NqRs&s=9mF1oBTizO3l48LK46fP1UmAGGmeqjv5v5eWYUXW9zo&e= >
> (on his Medium web Deep Code)
>
>   Here he is with John Vervaeke exploring his new concept of “the Civium”
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.youtube.com_watch-3Fv-3DNb74f0gg1Qs&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=oWfadIFQ8zu2_08wI9JDz62b9tjebjZs00pHIX3NqRs&s=-2HO_v1zB0L4flnpT-q00UuqX0x_EFF3zTEvdaFnurw&e= >
>
>
>
> Daniel Schmactenberger
>
>   Humanity’s Phase Shift <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.youtube.com_watch-3Fv-3DnQRzxEobWco&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=oWfadIFQ8zu2_08wI9JDz62b9tjebjZs00pHIX3NqRs&s=uHGM3Fzx7s64HW7XscJ4nuEudYxNk99t1RmkN1wdV8c&e= >
>
> The War on Sensemaking <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.youtube.com_watch-3Fv-3D7LqaotiGWjQ&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=oWfadIFQ8zu2_08wI9JDz62b9tjebjZs00pHIX3NqRs&s=CusL8VlSBlpLxzQbwtVnS-ZibN4ddELRCbAe-jsev5w&e= >
>
>   On Eric Weinstein’s the Portal
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.youtube.com_watch-3Fv-3D-5Fb4qKv1Ctv8&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=oWfadIFQ8zu2_08wI9JDz62b9tjebjZs00pHIX3NqRs&s=bFT1TVPKMdkMNzYHiBAToR2mR37F72WWbF1aI9IjQkc&e= >
>
>
>
> I also recommend Zak Stein’s Education in a Time Between Worlds and his
> essay War in Heaven.
>
>
> Best,
> Gregg
>
>
>
> *From:* tree of knowledge system discussion <
> [log in to unmask]> *On Behalf Of *Cory David Barker
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 21, 2020 12:25 AM
> *To:* [log in to unmask]
> *Subject:* Re: Inquiry on naming "The Issue"
>
>
>
> The model of hierarchical complexity is a mathematical behavior model that
> defines discreet orders (also called stages) of increasing behavioral
> complexity. Each order of complexity is produced by the coordination of two
> or more actions at the previous order. The orders are domain-general,
> universal forms of behavior.  There are 8 transition steps between each
> stage, and they are for fractally identical. And yes, it does apply at all
> building blocks of social organization, although the calculus to adequately
> represent it becomes profoundly complex.
>
>
>
> It is primarily quantitative, not qualitative and therefore not analogy
> based. However, analogies can be made in so far as an order of hierarchical
> complexity has been identified to be the same between two or more
> behaviors, so the characteristics that are shared between those behaviors
> can be related.
>
>
>
> The paper explicitly articulate the fundamental behavioral complexity
> required to resolve the current issues that are occurring right now. The
> problem is, most people hit a ceiling at formal or systematic stage, and in
> order for people to resolve the issues, they need to be no less then meta
> systematic stage, which consists of about 5% of the population. This is
> because the solution requires the coordination and synthesis of homomorphic
> principles that govern systems.
>
>
>
> Democracy was designed specifically for this purpose, for people to come
> together from different perspectives and design, append, and amend higher
> order principles (laws) to govern systems. Unfortunately, the systems have
> been corrupted. This is because almost all of the participants in economic,
> political, and corporate systems who can perform meta systematically, are
> stuck in the negation or oscillation transition steps, which is what
> metamodernism is an attempt to help solve.
>
>
>
> You cannot resolve the corruption directly. It does not work. Corrupt
> organizations consist of people who will understand your method for trying
> to prevent their corruption, and they will adapt to stop you.
> Anti-corruption only put Band-Aids on a larger problem. The paper I linked
> works, but only if you can get people to sit at the same table in good
> faith. And we don't see it happen very often. We need something more to
> solve these problems, but we don't have it yet.
>
>
>
> C.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 20, 2020, 1:19 AM James Lyons-Weiler <
> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>
>
> Thank you Cory, theirs (Sonnert & Commons') is a analogy-based general
> theoretical framework but I'm afraid in my view it falls
>
> short (as all analogies and models do to some extent) because it attempts
> to apply and extend a model developed to understand
>
> an aspect of the developing human brain, which society is not, and thus is
> cannot succeed in providing much more
>
> than a descriptive framework.
>
>
>
> RIght now, I'm more along the lines of "If we are asked to hang those
> responsible, who are they, and what do we call them" (hanging being a
>
> metaphor) and "once the king is dead, who shall be king (if anyone), and
> how shall we live"?  And "do we want to be informed or participate?"
>
>
>
> Take Greenspan's awakening, for example.
>
>
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.theguardian.com_business_2008_oct_24_economics-2Dcreditcrunch-2Dfederal-2Dreserve-2Dgreenspan&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=oWfadIFQ8zu2_08wI9JDz62b9tjebjZs00pHIX3NqRs&s=Gx2ctc_FWzZxmeZ-lb9vTh76JgFIe8HkBYf4HU9YYyw&e= 
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.theguardian.com_business_2008_oct_24_economics-2Dcreditcrunch-2Dfederal-2Dreserve-2Dgreenspan&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=D-9ZbkJ3UKJEqsE3Xl0MZ4WVjgIoHLzqIgKsT1Zylng&s=_d3QKD3iGMOSBKKVcI4PDm2FY7wggfASObJQ1wc65K8&e=>
>
>
>
>
> How could a society structure its economy on a model of infinite growth in
> the first place?
>
> A presumption that based on interest in one's own resources, one would
> take good care of them and shepherd them well - with no
>
> built-in safe guard for someone to sound an alarm, and practiced routine
> of changed behavior that would allow a gentle
>
> slide into a recession.  We don't have any such safeguards, and this is
> why in 2008 I called and wrote to Hank Paulson (Sec.
>
> Treasury) from my office at the University of Pittsburgh the Friday before
> Black Monday, pleading for him to use all
>
> carrot and no stick, lest a lending freeze hold the bail-out money for
> months.  My solution was a sliding scale incentive plan:
>
> The lower the interest rate banks offered to consumers, the larger the
> size of the bailout a bank could obtain, and the better
>
> the terms of the payback (longer terms, lower interest) to the Fed.
>
>
>
> Equitably incentivized transactions at such times would appear to me to
> dictate such terms - not further trust in
>
> the survival instincts of drowning institutions.
>
>
>
> Paulson ignored my pleas, instead he forced banks to accept bail-out
> they did not need to "legitimize" the loans.
>
>
>
> The banks froze for 3 three months, and millions lost their homes.
>
>
>
> The absence of creative thought in economic modeling - in spite of
> trillions of dollars worth of computers and software in which
>
> simulations could be run to find good outcomes - to me an example of is
> symptomatic of a larger pathology; parameterizing a strategy (and its
> models) to an end that serves as a means to  its own ends *because doing
> so sanctifies the authority*.
>
>
>
> As base as that may seem, Left and Right have no meaning if their
> shuffling of platforms are based on
>
> multivariate versions of "Split the country and take the bigger half",
> which they are.  They are based on projections of surrogate outcomes
>
> (elections) not long-term health of the country, economy, etc.  I'm
> convinced the two parties would survive quite well side by
>
> side regardless of the type of economy or (nearly) government that ruled
> the US.
>
>
>
> So who is culpable for not imagining and sharing such better ways?  Surely
> they have been imagined?
>
>
>
> Is it the drama players themselves?
>
> The witting and unwitting electorate?
>
>
>
> Are there meta-influences who ride the ebbing political waves like an
> investor
>
> who knows how to make money when the stock market both rises and falls?
>
>
>
> Or do societies flail - and fail - from the emergent properties of
> self-serving nature of humans, who see fit to limit
>
> themselves to conformed mold?
>
>
>
> Something else?
>
>
>
> Does for-profit medicine lead to medical injuries being the 3rd leading
> cause of death by institutional negligence, or
>
> personal callous disregard?  More importantly - what do we do NOW to
> address it?
>
>
>
> Reflect for a moment on why we so thoroughly enmesh our identities with
> our positions, and why are we not warned (and do not warn those
>
> we mentor) that to do so means risk of suffering an unwarranted crisis
> should your position change?
>
>
>
> I imagine that there are many, many axes of morality - defined by their
> ability to render useful and not harmful process solutions, which
>
> sit right before us, but to which we are blinded by our socialization and
> education:
>
>
>
> *-Conformity to the majority*
>
> *-Appeal to (or deference) to authority*
>
> *-Vague, inexact or unestimated "greater good" cost/benefit calculations *
>
>
>
> I'm sure everyone can extend this list of behaviors that become "default
> mode" operations that may have worked
>
> optimally in our tribal and small village past.
>
>
>
> But now, we confuse "principles" with "process solutions".  Principles are
> subjective and experience-based, and
>
> often outmoded by a rapidly changing world.
>
>
>
> Principles are held onto dearly, and in staying with them are left
> unscathed by later-life experience.
>
>
>
> Process solutions are continuously optimized via intelligence and tested
> by objective empirical evidence.
>
>
>
> "Principles" can collide and cause societal conflict.  "Process solutions"
> cannot collide, they can only enmesh and adjust to each
>
> other toward some optimal solution.
>
>
>
> There are many possible outcomes for tomorrow given where we stand today.
> Are we forbidden or
>
> constrained from using the full suite of tools we have mastered to
> envision a peaceful, creative, caring, even loving future?
>
>
>
> I don't know if you've noticed but there is a rising tide of
> anti-scientism in the US - and it is not anti-science by any means.
>
>
>
> In part that is because those who call for objective science remain
> heralded (for better or worse).
>
>
>
> My overt concern (not yet a fear) is a restructuring based on partial
> comprehension of science, sociology, psychology,
>
> education, economics, and that we may fall short of a society that
> preserves liberties and freedom that permit
>
> evolution or even free expression in these areas.
>
>
>
> My fear is that the collective academe in the US will wake up too slowly
> to the reality that at 16.8% of our GDP, 3,600
>
> billion dollars are spent on (largely) for-profit healthcare; that means
> that 1/6 dollars are being spent on for-profit medicine, and
>
> the cost of healthcare is expected to rise dramatically. How will we pay
> for the rest of what is needed to have a functioning
>
> society?
>
>
>
> Most importantly I think is what process solutions can be envisioned to
> reform an unsustainable model based on infinite growth?
>
>
>
> And what other sectors are pathological at this time, and what process
> solutions might exist to help them improve as well?
>
>
>
> I don't think we can expect all of the answers here, but surely some
> answers must exist.
>
>
>
> JLW
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 12:13 AM Cory David Barker <
> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> Read Sonnert and Commons
>
>
>
>
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.google.com_url-3Fsa-3Dt-26source-3Dweb-26rct-3Dj-26url-3Dhttps-3A__files.eric.ed.gov_fulltext_ED348600.pdf-26ved-3D2ahUKEwiPzMLk-2DtrqAhXELH0KHS5ZAs4QFjABegQIBBAB-26usg-3DAOvVaw1LOvMInu3N1o9iEJvVY8YB&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=oWfadIFQ8zu2_08wI9JDz62b9tjebjZs00pHIX3NqRs&s=162R1_5SVSNrlHDqGfqsxYoDLwUGNWHBqR6Ied2os3g&e= 
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.google.com_url-3Fsa-3Dt-26source-3Dweb-26rct-3Dj-26url-3Dhttps-3A__files.eric.ed.gov_fulltext_ED348600.pdf-26ved-3D2ahUKEwiPzMLk-2DtrqAhXELH0KHS5ZAs4QFjABegQIBBAB-26usg-3DAOvVaw1LOvMInu3N1o9iEJvVY8YB&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=dV8LmVFnbOlj5VxkDUn5xSaqWHr5MCLS6uIA6M5o_K4&s=vlgU37ZZpN-_qz8Vk57BXX2HdUErNlYpohaDAUae824&e=>
>
>
>
> Cory
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 19, 2020, 7:38 PM James Lyons-Weiler <
> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>
>
> With your permission, may I inquire on opinions and discussion of root
> causes of the sociological developments in societies of the current suite
> of what are easily - and not so easily recognized as societal
> dysfunctions.  My intended scope is US-centric, but need not be. I'll
> initiate by listing a few issues.  Which ones are causal? Which one are
> symptomatic?
>
>
>
> *Profit interesting bending Science (esp. medicine and psychiatry)
>
> *Financial perverse incentives distorting Science
>
> *Lack of meaningful ROI of research translating to effective solutions
>
> *"Left vs. Right focus" masking top-down control (cf. middle-out or
> bottom-up) solutions
>
>
>
> Please add to/extend as you like.
>
>
>
> We need not agree, of course, but I am keen to see perspectives and learn
> of voices willing to try to *name the issue* and offer a definition.
>
>
>
> It need not be an "ism", but I suspect it is on the scale of "*Imperialism,
> Nazism, Communism*".
>
>
>
> Lately I've been enamored with the phrase "Process Solution"; ie.,
>
> the identification of an ever-improving process that makes the
> identification and adoption of a viable and helpful (valuable) solution
> more likely - so if you have process solutions in mind and if they help
> w/finding a name due to the present absence of that solution, I'd be eager
> to learn of them.
>
>
>
> James Lyons-Weiler, PhD
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 5:56 PM Chance McDermott <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
> I support Gregg in this!
>
>
>
> =Chance
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 10:39 AM Cole Butler <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> Well said, Gregg.
>
>
>
> I’ve not been following this Pinker controversy (nor am I acquainted with
> his work), but your points regarding contextualization of the broader
> socio-political landscape of the US (and West, more broadly) and the
> idealogical protection of egos so as to avoid offense both speak to me.
> Within the smaller circles of my work, I’ve lately seen the science and
> greater mission of our work threatened to be crumbled under the fear of
> offending some big personalities. This is quite worrisome from my position,
> as others seem to be apt to deferring these feelings toward me. I hope
> that, within the academy and more broadly, we can work to be able to speak
> freely [even when it threatens offending others (I’m not speaking here in
> the context of race)] in the name of the ultimate ideal of helping others
> through high-quality work.
>
>
>
> Best,
>
>
>
> Cole
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 8:28 AM Michael Mascolo <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
> Good, courageous work, Gregg.
>
>
>
> M.
>
>
>
> *Michael F. Mascolo, Ph.D.*
> Academic Director, Compass Program
>
> Professor, Department of Psychology
> Merrimack College, North Andover, MA 01845
> 978.837.3503 (office)
> 978.979.8745 (cell)
>
>
>
> *Political Conversations Study: www.CreatingCommonGround.org
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.creatingcommonground.org_&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=aHGv2k0oV6dpAydV2ONDDuK5xZ5sLdP71WDfMW0XbNI&s=K2PXF679Gi2-qOfSEWxrsP_JOpf0k8E6dg80DGz9IqM&e=>*
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> On Jul 19, 2020, at 8:18 AM, Henriques, Gregg - henriqgx <[log in to unmask]
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> Hi TOK Folks,
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> I thought I would share this post I made this morning on the metamodern
> forum I am on:
>
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> I think when discussing these issues, such as the petition against Pinker,
> the Harper letter, and so forth, it is crucial to distinguish the
> setting/community/cultural context folks have in mind. For example, there
> is the United States as a whole. That might be one contextual setting. When
> folks look at the US as a whole, then you see Donald Trump as the President
> and you see the history of slavery and Jim Crow and the remarkable
> inequities, and much like *@handrews*
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__forum.metamoderna.org_u_handrews&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=wjF8cZoiFchamTuxBdDEmw&m=_lla770peQlgRBFfwJwSfFiONQdygXo-fy8wGS3q6Ak&s=oF_YzrY5UCQAolXMPE6cNw9JH0qdAlyWGQslIJHNo3Q&e=> argues,
> the general complaints about word usage or political positions seem small
> potatoes.
>
> However, when we flip the context to inside the academia or leftist media
> centers or other left-leaning ideological contexts, the issue is VERY
> different. I can tell you, I live in the academy, in the social sciences
> (professional psychology) and the climate here is very different. We are
> MUCH closer to thought/language police than people seem to realize. Virtue
> signaling is everywhere, as is an almost Orwellian use of language
> regarding justice and morality (i.e., more often than not in such contexts,
> IMO, those who are doing the moralizing and shaming are not operating from
> a “higher ground”). Not only that, I believe much of it is ideologically
> misguided. Academics bending over backwards to eliminate anything that
> could be subjectively perceived by a person educated in postmodern critical
> race theory as being offensive is not where real change is to be had, IMO.
> Rather, as I saw firsthand in working on the inner city streets of
> Philadelphia from 1999-2003, there are deep class/race/structural issues
> that need to be tackled head on.
>
> If one is situated in the academy, one should object strongly to the
> letter against Pinker. It justifies language police, which is a problem
> inside hyper-progressive systems and much of the academy has been (is are
> being) captured by this troubling ideology (*see the footnote on pg 122
> of this article I wrote*
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> in 2005). The bottom line is that we are living in massively polarized
> socio-ideological
> ecologies and because context is everything there are rarely general
> positions (i.e., Pinker letter was “bad” versus “an important signal”) that
> are defensible without specifying the context to apply to argument. Inside
> the context of academy, the Pinker letter is horrendous and the signatories
> should be embarrassed for their actions. In the larger context of a society
> that has elected Trump, it can be seen as a small issue that maybe
> oversteps but makes an important point on principle.
>
> My hope is that those who operate from a metamodern sensibility would have
> the general capacity to see that the extreme polarization in the US (which
> is probably infecting the West) is a function of inadequate cultural codes
> being defined against one another in problematic ways. We need to
> disentangle those conflicts, eliminate weak positions, and work to seek and
> create common ground based on a clear, rich sophisticated sense-making and
> deep value codes that can stretch across the socio-ecological levels of
> (in)dividual, dyadic, family, small group, community, state, nation,
> transnational and global.
>
> Best,
> Gregg
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